I'd like to make a mmorpg. It's basicaly an exact replica of ragnarok online, except it will be made in MMF .
Basicaly i'd need gfx artists, no more than two, i don't want this to get too complicated for me to command. The artist would simply take care of drawing ragnarok's art (shouldn't be too hard, after all it's just drawing stuff that's already done)
And for the code part, i need 3 MMF Coders. One will be in charge of the online part, and the other two will do the rest, wich includes gameplay and battle engines.
I will be in charge of doing all the game production, wich means you'll just have to follow my orders, so it's not a complete chaos. This is the most important task (imo), meaning the game will basicaly be mine for selling. But the helping members get to play the game for free for life, or until i make an update.
Anyone interested please message me on The Daily Click mail, i'd need your age and also how many years of experience you have (i don't want my game to be made by losers if you know what i mean)
you can't just make a part of the game and then make it work online. Programming the online part also means programming the other parts because they will be online as well.
Another thing is copyright. It's that little thing that means you can't make replicas of other peoples' work without getting the explicit permission to do so.
Also, Ragnarok's scenery is in true 3D, only the characters are sprites. I'd like to see you implement true 3D in MMF
i'm not trying to put you down or anything, i was actually trying to give you advice. And with you being the maker of the game it would really be your loss as game makers' goal is to make as many people as possible play your game
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Dustin Gunn Gnarly Tubular Way Cool Awesome Groovy Mondo
Registered 15/12/2004
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13th February, 2006 at 21:58:34 -
Oh come on people, he's not asking for too much. Stop bitching and help him.
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Assault Andy Administrator
I make other people create vaporware
Registered 29/07/2002
Points 5686
14th February, 2006 at 06:02:18 -
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. No. Did you realize Ragnarok uses a 3D engine?
I will be in charge of doing all the game production, wich means you'll just have to follow my orders, so it's not a complete chaos. This is the most important task (imo), meaning the game will basicaly be mine for selling. But the helping members get to play the game for free for life, or until i make an update.
who said i can't have a 3d engine in MMF? Anyway, I'm very confident this project is going to be a complete sucess (better than the things assault andy makes, that's for sure lol) All i need's a few artists and coders to start working hard. You have to show me your progress on my DC Mail, so i can overview it.
[quote]meaning the game will basicaly be mine for selling[/quote]
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You can't sell a copyrighted game idea as your own work and you shouldn't exactly expect people to jump up and help you if your going to sell the game but not give them any of the money O_o.
Why should people work for you on a game idea that has already been done?
How much have you made with your game? I want to know so i can have an estimate of what i'm going to make with ragnarok.. wich is what you made multiplied by 1000
So... Basically this is want you wanna do:
You want to be the 'leader' of an exact ripoff of Ragnarok Online. You want coders to code this game for you and you want graphical artist to draw this game for you, while you'll be sitting there and "guide" them. Then you wanna sell it for "large" amounts of money which you won't share with the rest of your slaves you have hired.
OMG WOW! That must be the hardest and the most important task EVER.
I admire you as a person. I'd never come up with an idea like that myself!
How much I have made off of the game is none of your business, and frankly I don't like your attitude towards criticism. You appear to be very immature so I doubt anyone will want to work with you.
Dogzer, you do realize that ragnarok is a copyrighted game. You could only sell it with permission from the company who made it, and that would not happen because you're making a game that was already made. No person, in their right mind, will buy a game that was already made by a proffesional company from a group of amateur gamemakers. If you were to sell the game without permission, which is how you intended, you would have a massive lawsuit burning your ass for the rest of your sorry life. I'm sure everyone here, would be glad to help if you actually had an idea for your game. How creative is recreating a game that was already made, and then sell it? The concept of making and mmorpg is good, but form an idea around that, and not someone else's idea. As a "leader," you should be forming a story and concept, and ask those that have the talent to help you form imagery and function around that idea. First of all, it takes no talent to rip graphics from a game. Even YOU could do that yourself... I hope. Second, I'm sure everyone agrees that nobody wants to help you because you're an unrealistic, immature boob that even in asking for help drives people away. "(i don't want my game to be made by losers if you know what i mean)." What the hell is that? You do want people to respond to you positively, right? I'm sorry but asking everyone to work there asses off and then get no pay is bullshit. You're the first one I've know to run an autocratic video game project. My advice is... do your own damn project, sell it, and get sued.
If intelligence is bliss, why aren't there more happy people?
Peblo Custom ratings must be 50 characters or less
Registered 05/07/2002
Points 185
20th February, 2006 at 00:35:19 -
I loves the dogzer! He upgrades my pwn points sometimes.
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
KnP's online support is shaky I hear. Unless it was a statement by a non-slave LOSER!
I expect you to update the game as soon as it's released, though I don't know what you'd update if you did NONE of the work by yourself. You are some kinda miracle worker, that's what you are, Dogzie.
I agree with spork. Nobody (i mean that literally) will buy your game if it's just a copy of another game that is made by pros. GET YOUR OWN IDEA Y' LAZY BUM.
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Peblo Custom ratings must be 50 characters or less
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16th March, 2006 at 02:09:16 -
If you don't want to help, get out.
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
you guys dont get it do you. it can't work. why don't you make a game thats basically the same except with different characters different animation style and storyline.
@peblo - i thought you had tgf...why would you make the movement in KnP? and there are ways to do scrolling in KnP. its just a lot of extra coding.
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Peblo Custom ratings must be 50 characters or less
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17th March, 2006 at 07:43:35 -
I start in KNP, then work up to MMF.
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
Did you know Ragnarok online is patented? if they caught you using thier idea, they can sue you. They tried to sue someone that made a server emulator before that allowed people to connect to unofficial server because they believe it violated copyrights. Gotta be careful with that
I don't think a company like Gravity Games will care if i make only 8 or 9 grand out of this.. in any case, when i hit 20 grand or more i might start doing some changes on the game so I don't get copyrights troubles.
But the ones in charge of coding better do it quick, or else i'll be in trouble.
Dogzer, this sounds great! You'll probably make 50 grand + outta this game!!
Some slow people here...
By a route obscure and lonely,
Haunted by ill angels only,
Where an Eidolon, named night,
On a black throne reigns upright,
I have reached these lands but newly
From an ultimate dim Thule
From a wild clime that lieth, sublime,
Out of space
Out of time.
"I don't think a company like Gravity Games will care if i make only 8 or 9 grand out of this.. in any case, when i hit 20 grand or more i might start doing some changes on the game so I don't get copyrights troubles.
But the ones in charge of coding better do it quick, or else i'll be in trouble."
Oh. I am sorry for doubting you as you obviously know what you are talking about, and yeah you are right. Companies don't care if you just make a few grand off of their ideas. I am sure Nintendo wouldn't care at all if you sold a mario fan game.
Although..... Cloneing the game is a ton of work, perhaps you should just sell the actual game itself?
Beileve me, i've tried to understand him, but this idiot seems to fail to realise that what he is doing is piracy, and that he expects to make 8 or 9 grand from a falure of a game.
Why would anyone pay for somthing when they can play a much better version with original graphics and a much larger user base?
World of Warcraft watchout, Dogzar is comming to steal your user base, better start purchasing some servers unless you plan on running it from your machine.
I will be very surpised if this game goes any further than just one mans dream.
I coded Dogzer once. I couldn't iron out all the bugs so I just released him and hoped someone would fix him... but look at what I've done! HE'S GAINED SENTIENT THOUGHT! THE APOCOLYPSE IS APPROACHING!
DAMMIT SYLVESTER STALLONE, WE NEED YOU! I LOST MY BRUCE WILLIS SIGNAL!
I'd like to let everyone who is interested that coding jobs are still available here. I need to speed this thing up a little bit, you know? I dont want to release this when i'm 80 lol
Oh and for all those who are against my game, get a life people. When this gets out there.. i'll be sure to kick you out of the game if i see you playing on my server.
Apparently a Lesbian Engine is impossible. I can only make a Bisexual Engine. Hope you're not disappointed. And you'll have to put in the lasers yourself. As for the ninja bit, I'm sure Peblo has something related to that done, right?
Oh! My god.
Peblo Custom ratings must be 50 characters or less
Registered 05/07/2002
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27th March, 2006 at 02:12:56 -
Yeah, it seems to work ok, other than I spilled some n
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
Apparently a Gay Engine is possible... but I'm not sure that'd get as many male players. Though... you could get those chicks that look at yaoi (I remember that because I was traumatized as a little child to find out that all Japanese words don't mean "ninja"; that's also how I found out what hentai was. Yeesh).
"I will be in charge of doing all the game production, wich means you'll just have to follow my orders, so it's not a complete chaos. This is the most important task (imo), meaning the game will basicaly be mine for selling. But the helping members get to play the game for free for life, or until i make an update."
ftw!
You shouldn't go here, there are crazy swedes who mumble about cucumbers:
http://www.crobasoft.com
this is hilarious. this reminds me of reading maddox's work and then reading the hatemail of people who don't get it.
Oh yeah, dogzer i whipped a 3d battle engine up real quick. It's about on par with quake 3, sorry I couldn't do better. I hope it will work for your game? Also I only have tgf so porting it to mmf might be a little tricky, but it should be ok.
Oh BTW I composed exact mp3 copies of the music if you want that as well. Let me know!
I've coded my own Ragnarok engine in OpenGL Klik thing. It's reeeally good it supports great greaphics and looks good. the only problem is having more than 2 sprites in the same place at the same time. I don't think that will be a problem for this project though.
this is the fucking stupidest thing ive heard of in a long time. Dogzer is a complete moron if he thinks this would work, and he is a complete moron if he thinks this is funny. i hope you get sued =].
I never realized you were the noodle from the Teatons.
But yeah, most teatons people have a sense of humor that is not relevant to any humor known by mear mortals. Which usually involves screaming and random thoughts of people dieing. Yeah that's basically it.
I don't know what's the problem here dudes, all i want is for y'all to make me Ragnarok!
*licks Twiterror*
But seriously speaking, you know what kids never ask themselves? why do they have to call me a retard, huh?... regardless i'm an actual retard or not, right? you know what i'm talking about?
btw that awesome drawing i made up there is a gift for the funnies wich were provided
Dogzer, you are by far the biggest fuckin retard here on TDC. You want coders and graphics artists to copy you a commercial quality game, and since you do all the 'hard work' you get to keep any profits made from a pretty much pirated game. Seriously I think we should have a special ROTW (retard of the week) this week, and Dogzer will most deffinetely win. Btw, how the hell do you see anyone helping you under these conditions, or even see yourself making 9k-10k? wtf... you're just stupid. Thats all i can say.
"Actually sir, we found a tiny unicorn in your exhaust. It was jumping around poking holes in your gas tank." "Oh thank you I did not know that. A tiny unicorn? Wow."
Peblo Custom ratings must be 50 characters or less
Registered 05/07/2002
Points 185
27th August, 2006 at 15:50:15 -
And thus, Peblo continued to be amazed.
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
Gawd DANG boy! Yous a fucktard, just like yo pa! LOLLING MAO
By a route obscure and lonely,
Haunted by ill angels only,
Where an Eidolon, named night,
On a black throne reigns upright,
I have reached these lands but newly
From an ultimate dim Thule
From a wild clime that lieth, sublime,
Out of space
Out of time.
"I don't think a company like Gravity Games will care if i make only 8 or 9 grand out of this.. in any case, when i hit 20 grand or more i might start doing some changes on the game so I don't get copyrights troubles."
OMFG Man your the biggest fcking newb ever. Jesus Christ. Wont care? THey are going to shut you down the second you get any publicity.
B: No1 will work for free while you make money (IF ANY MONEY)
C: THey will trust Ragnarok Online before they touch your shit, and their already is private servers you noob.
D: But posting this pathetic attempt of corrupting yourself you lost mine and probly everyones respect since your a cheap fcking asshole who cant do shit all, and worse of that has to bassically rip a entire game and idea for self profit.
Can't wait to see you crash, and Burn. Ill be their with marshmallows
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Here save yourself the trouble, and dont get anyone else involved to ruin them like you.
A. Download Ragnarok Off its site
B. Upload it to your site
C. Be a noob and charge for download off your site
D. Wait patiently to recieve mail from Gravity Games for a Lawsuit.
Hey everyone. I don't think calling people retards and idiots is the correct way to make your point heard. Would you listen to someone if they called you an idiot?
I had some harsh critism for Dogzer at first but now I realize that I don't care one way or another whether or not he makes this game. If it is a joke then he got me good, and if it isn't then I wish him the best of luck.
You just have to ask yourself: Why care?
I honestly think that this thread was designed to provoke people into calling him an idiot or a retard...
A bit of insanity with every bite!
Peblo Custom ratings must be 50 characters or less
Registered 05/07/2002
Points 185
5th September, 2006 at 02:32:01 -
No! He just wants to make a game guys, come on. Show some support, assholes.
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
I'd offer to help if I had more time. The community could use a MMORPG.
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With all the negative reaction, it's not surprising how many are turned off against it
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Man, what's the release date like? I really want to play this game but I've just been waiting for so long. Are you guys looking for beta testers maybe?
And to all you douches who are spamming this thread, get out! Let the people who are serious about this game talk in peace.