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16th January, 2008 at 03:39:56 -

so apparently there are a few tdc members that use linux?
has anyone run any clickteam products on linux using WINE?
i've recently got fed up with windows and am currently dual booting with ubuntu 7.10. (i need windows and compatable c++ ide for school.)
so far tgf hasnt had any problems running under wine and i can play click games under wine as well. there are some lag issues with some games but i dont know what causes that. but it works fine for the most part.
the more i can do to switch from windows to linux the better.

i guess im just asking what some of your views on this issue is. if any .

 
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16th January, 2008 at 05:13:29 -

sorry for going a little off topic, but what was it about windows that finally pushed you over the edge?

 
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16th January, 2008 at 06:46:24 -


Originally Posted by Dr. James
They were open and it was blowing a gale outside.



ba-doom, tischh!

I think it all runs fairly well on WINE cecil.. I'd do a partition first to make sure it's all ok though. Or still, why not just dual boot?

 
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16th January, 2008 at 07:00:47 -

that sounds about right.

<rant>
i don't have as big of a problem with xp and lower as i do with vista.
i dont much care for the changes from xp to vista.
but i can't put xp on my laptop (my main compy) unless i buy a copy. no option for xp since vista came out unless you buy it. which is gay. disk space is another issue i have on vista. its like when you run vista for a few days it just dumps a bunch of useless crap on your harddrive. temp files, data, etc. every few days if i run computer management and ran disk cleanup id have around 15gigs of space freed up. also randomly on vista, windows explorer just like freeks out and i have to log out and log back in my computer.

so its not just one thing. i could go on about all the little things that just bug the heck outta me. plus microsoft is a greedy money hungry corporation that is more concerned about releasing a product then actually making it work properly. fuckin windows updates and system patches.

oh yeah, and no more fullscreen support for win32 apps. mode 13h is gone. the only thing i use vista for is c++ for school and anything else i havent found a solution to on linux (although c++ has IDE's on linux, its not what we're learning in school, which is quite different). the only problem i have with linux is im not as used to it as i am with windows. other than that im in love. everything is so accessable and easy to understand. and since tgf is usable on linux its one more reason for me to use it more than windows. for now im satisfied dual booting them both.
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but that WAS off topic. i just want to know others' views.

 
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16th January, 2008 at 07:59:06 -

I got linux working so that when I come to buy a new PC I can save myself about £80 and not get Vista with it

But yeah, I don't even dual boot anymore (simply because everything I did on XP I can do on Linux)

 
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16th January, 2008 at 12:36:54 -

Wine works great, but crashes if you attempt to get your app to change the resolution.

 
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16th January, 2008 at 15:02:47 -

Your computer sounds like it wasn't made to work with Vista. Mine works great. But I do hate the little "UAC is off! Click here to fix the problem!"

 
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@joe - inspiron 1501, amd turion64x2 2.0ghz, radeon xpress1150, 2gb RAM

but like i said its only small problems. just...so...many. grr.

 
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16th January, 2008 at 17:13:14 -


Originally Posted by Billybobjoe198
Your computer sounds like it wasn't made to work with Vista. Mine works great. But I do hate the little "UAC is off! Click here to fix the problem!"



You can rid of that..

 
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16th January, 2008 at 17:20:12 -

Just a note: the official developers like calling it Wine nowadays, not WINE. At least, the site says so.

MMF2 seems to work fine on Wine most of the time for me, except for the odd crashes. Games and apps usually have no problems except in some window setting combinations (like windowed + no border). MIDI music also sounds great thanks to QSynth and a good soundfont (mp3 quality).

 
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16th January, 2008 at 20:53:11 -


Originally Posted by $username


You can rid of that..



May I ask how?

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16th January, 2008 at 21:24:02 -

Wine Is Not an Emulator.
Wine is standardized. WINE is fine. neither is wrong.

back on topic. for those of you who do use, or dabble, in linux, what distro's are you using? or which have you found most useful, accessible, easy to use?

 
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16th January, 2008 at 21:58:46 -

Oh, and about Linux. I got Knoppix STD but I cannot figure out how to configure a wireless network on it and all google did was nothing.

 
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16th January, 2008 at 23:18:36 -

ndiswrapper.

you have to wrap the correct windows drivers for your wireless card using Ndiswrapper. its a pain in the ass.

in ubuntu (assuming its the same for Knoppix)

to get ndiswrapper its

sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9

after downloading the driver package for my wireless card (R151517.EXE)
unzip it with

unzip -a R151517.EXE

change the directory to where the proper driver is located. my driver is bcmwl5.inf

then use this to wrap it to your device

sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf

to show if its working and installed properly and the device is now recognized do

sudo ndiswrapper -l

and then

sudo ndiswrapper -m //not sure what that one does but its necessary

lastly to make it all work

sudo modprobe ndiswrapper

unless you want to run the command "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" everytime you boot" run this command

sudo gedit /etc/modules

and add the following line to the end of the file

ndiswrapper

buuuuuuut all this is ubuntu so it probably wont work. i have no clue. google "Knoppix STD ndiswrapper wireless support for 'your wirless card here'" or something similar.

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