So, has anyone helped the victims of this horrible incident then? I've donated $10... not loads but I can't really afford much at the moment ... I'm sure they need it more than I do.
And don't bother bitching about it being too hard, if you've got Paypal you can just go here: http://www.paypal.com/donation
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"Say you're hanging from a huge cliff at the top of mt. everest and a guy comes along and says he'll save you, and proceeds to throw religious pamphlets at you while simultaniously giving a sermon." - Dustin G
Nope. I can't afford it and in any case it wouldn't make any difference. They've got more cash than they know what to do with, the only problem is getting the logistics in there to smooth out the bottlenecks. And that's just a matter of time, it's not something more money is going to speed up.
There's certainly more than enough money for the short-term (i.e. now) and some aid that they already have is rotting because they can't get it to people quick enough. As Radix said, it's nothing money can help.
Incidentally - I'm on a team trying to set up an aid concert at school, with professional musicians coming (mostly Asian music, more appropriate). The tickets cost £6 - the plan being that people will pay for it with a £10 note and be too embarrassed to ask for change
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Pete Nattress Cheesy Bits img src/uploads/sccheesegif
Registered 23/09/2002
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14th January, 2005 at 08:03:12 -
i contemplated donating but didn't. the goverments of britain, america and many other developed countries have PLENTY of money to donate to this cause. if i donated £10 or whatever, it would be from a selfish motivation to ease my conscience rather than a genuine belief that it would make the blindest bit of difference.
also, i don't see why this cause merits special attention. millions of people in africa are dead from AIDS and genocidal civil wars, but there's no constant unprecedented relief efforts from the west for them. and surely we should feel more guilty about those things as they're things we can actually stop now.
Surely something to help is better than nothing to help. And if a million people like you donated £10 each, then that's another ten million to the fund.
Anyways you could argue that the government's money is the public's money anyway.
Tonight I happen to be playing at a gig in aid of the fund.
The thing that worries me is the politics behind it all, and how efficiently they're using the money. If "only" 10% of donated money doesn't reach the survivors or is wasted, then that's still millions of people's donations gone to waste.
Exactly, Pete. There are lots of other problems in the world that don't get nearly as much attention, IMO simply because they're not as spectacular or don't involve anyone from our(/your) country.
Money can buy building materials and antiseptics, it can't cure AIDS. Sure we can donate to research groups but that's more of a long term thing since we're not really that close to finding a cure that works. These people need medical equipment and building materials right now.
"Say you're hanging from a huge cliff at the top of mt. everest and a guy comes along and says he'll save you, and proceeds to throw religious pamphlets at you while simultaniously giving a sermon." - Dustin G
Pete Nattress Cheesy Bits img src/uploads/sccheesegif
Registered 23/09/2002
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14th January, 2005 at 14:29:24 -
it is entirely possible to prevent the SPREAD of AIDS, by providing people with contraceptives, for example. people in the dafur region need their homes back right now, with the maniacal rebels stopped, but they're not getting it. and it's not like either of my examples are a recent problem. why not give debt relief to THOSE countries? it makes no sense.
I would donate, but I dont have a credit card nor a Paypal account, so it pretty much is something I would do, but cant. So its not like I'm keeping the $10 for something better, I just cant donate because #1 I dont even have a penny in my pocket, & #2 I dont have a card or a paypal account.
Don't forget, there's still a large problem called FAMINE, which funnily enough, is caused by people not having enough to eat/drink. I'm sure aid would help the poverty-stricken tremendously, with the whole process overseen for countries with governments that would spend it on weapons. There have also been earthquakes in other parts of the world causing similar devestation, so why the sudden rush for this and not other disasters?
I found the 3 minute silence ridiculous. I don't object to remembering the event, but to give 3 minutes for a natural disaster where we give 2 on Rememberance Day doesn't follow for me. Do we value helplessness more than courage and honour?
Hey who saw the american singer and that stupid house show or somthing that put down Canadians at first cause we only donated about 5 million.
I guess the american singer asked all the Canadians in the audience to leave her show or somthing... I heard it in the newspaper and I think ill dig it out... but who knows more info on this?
When did people "have to donate"? I thought people are allowed to donate what they thought was right?
"I have dreamed a dream... But now that dream is gone from me."
Pete Nattress Cheesy Bits img src/uploads/sccheesegif
Registered 23/09/2002
Points 4811
15th January, 2005 at 06:51:34 -
"I found the 3 minute silence ridiculous."
you'll like my friend then. he sang "The Tide is High" during it. and people call my humour tasteless!
my mates were in town during the silence. apparently everyone stood still, looked down and went silent. but they forgot about it and ran in quoting some Alan Partridge thing, realized what was happening and decided to run through the shopping centre laughing... ah well
i havnt donated anything yet. let them spend all of Paul McCartneys money first, then ill donate £20 or whatever... aye.
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