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DeadmanDines

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20th June, 2005 at 09:27:36 -

How many of you use an NTFS hard drive?

I'm asking because there's a feature of NTFS I want to try and play with in a new application, but it would only be worth pursuing if NTFS is common enough.

I don't know whether MMF's extensions will permit it, but it's a file-hiding system called ADS. Out of curiosity, has anyone tried using ADS already in MMF?

Sounds like it could be great fun for gamesaves if it works!

 
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20th June, 2005 at 09:30:47 -

Most modern hard drives are NTFS. Mine is.

 
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20th June, 2005 at 09:45:43 -

Yeah, my main hard-drive is NTFS, and also I got an old smaller one which is FAT32. I've no idea what either of them mean though.

 
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20th June, 2005 at 09:46:43 -

Mine is too.

 
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20th June, 2005 at 10:58:20 -

Sounds like it should be OK to use as long as it works in MMF.

The basic principle behind it is that you not only have filenames that go like this:

Drive:\folder\subfolder\file.extension

but you can also have one file attached to another, like this:

c:\folder\subfolder\file.txt:anotherFile.txt

'anotherfile.txt' won't be visible in explorer or (almost) any other kind of disk explorer. Yet something like Notepad could still read it if you told it to open 'file.txt:anotherFile.txt'

It's kinda like having files saved in a whole other dimension. They're there, and yet they're not there. All you'll see is the file it's attached to (in this case, 'file.txt'). If this can be used in MMF, you can imagine the nifty applications (such as gamesave hiding)

 
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20th June, 2005 at 11:13:39 -

That's a really nice idea.

 
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20th June, 2005 at 16:49:23 -

There's always one, eh?

Righty, well this is the easiest thing in the world to do, I'll write an article on it.

 
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20th June, 2005 at 19:49:26 -

FAT32 limits your file sizes by 4GB, NTFS has no limit. Why would anyone use FAT32 on a new system?

 
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21st June, 2005 at 05:29:35 -

Mines NTFS.

 
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21st June, 2005 at 11:09:24 -

restricting your game to be played on NTFS HDs just for hiding gamesaves is stupid...

 
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21st June, 2005 at 11:23:06 -

I think fat32 is what windows 98 uses,

 
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21st June, 2005 at 12:51:38 -

Mine's NTFS.

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21st June, 2005 at 14:33:25 -

Yay. Another nice new way to hide viruses.

 
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21st June, 2005 at 14:44:37 -

NTFS - NT File System

 
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21st June, 2005 at 22:12:25 -

I always assumed it stood for Naughty Toast File System, I suppose your way makes more sense. So what's FAT32 stand for? I got it down as the Baseball team 'Fantastic Alternative Tapirs 1932.'

 
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21st June, 2005 at 22:51:22 -

File Allocation Table 32-bit

 
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22nd June, 2005 at 12:16:23 -

I knew that, who says I didn't?

 
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22nd June, 2005 at 14:28:00 -

I brought a new hardrive last month (160gb, 7200 rpm, 8mb cache), and i fdisked it as FAT32 (file allocation table - 32 bit, which is adequate for terrabytes of storage) .

If your interested dines look up singly/doubly linked lists, i'm told thats how the FAT/NTFS system works.

 
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22nd June, 2005 at 23:53:04 -

I take it you won't be watching ripped dvd's or editing videos on your computer then.

I have two 250gb hard drives (NTFS) in a RAID 0 configuration, giving me 500gb of storage in C:\ drive.

 
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23rd June, 2005 at 02:42:09 -

NTFS here.

 
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23rd June, 2005 at 02:52:09 -

NTFS here on my two HDDs, and on all 6 of my server's HDDs

 
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23rd June, 2005 at 07:05:05 -

I think if you buy a new HD it's more likely to be formatted with FAT32 as NTFS is a closed-standard for Windows only. Nothing a reformat won't solve.

 
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23rd June, 2005 at 10:22:53 -

mine is FAT32 (plus a handful EXTended file system v3)

 
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23rd June, 2005 at 20:13:58 -

NTFS is also a *lot* more reliable if the power goes, or the system crashes. No need to scandisk it also can be indexed quite fast by Windows 2000's & XP's indexing service (if you enable it = fast searching) it would take a few days or a week or two to index a lot of files.

 
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24th June, 2005 at 00:12:16 -

NTFS

 
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24th June, 2005 at 02:53:41 -

FAT32 filesizes are limited to 4 gb, so that mean no full size DVD isos... not that you should be messing with those anyway

 
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28th June, 2005 at 02:49:13 -

ntfs, u know why? its stinkin easy to fix!

 
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