I don't really see the need for this. Odds are it'll be used heavy-handedly for a couple of months then reserved as an excuse for banning people you don't like (not that bans need to be justified, evidently).
I also have to object to the "Reputation" label. This is more of an "Admin Favour" thing after all. It's not a true representation of reputation, I mean you know the faggot squad here are going to be wheedling points out at every opportunity yet their real "reputation" is decidedly negative.
Looking forward to losing rep for protesting all the fascist shit that goes on here, though. I request that you don't give me points for helping kids out in code-it or whatever, which I'll continue to do when I can, but I DO NOT want to play this stupid game.
Bad rep is given for misbehaviour, posting frequent porn links or writing reviews that consist of the words "This game sucks" x 200. Generally, anything that is deemed unacceptable in society - racism, unnecessary insults, etc.
I should point out also that, in the case of this being a totally unpopular idea, the Rep system wasn't my idea!
It's a case of "three strikes and you're out". But you can gain good rep (not by kissing admins backsides) by doing stuff that is genuinely helpful. It will hopefully encourage users to submit constructive critisism, reviews, and articles. Good rep won't be gained simply by being your normal self... after all, you have to earn your good reputation in real life, and here should be no different.
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14th July, 2007 at 11:29:25 -
So you can misbehave, and post useful advice and good games, reviews and such and stay unbanned?
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
Circy: And, what is the purpose of positive "reputation", besides a buffer between yourself and a ban?
Radix says:
the main thing is, it's obviously another means for them to attempt to control the usership
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Radix says:
banning has always been there, but now they have a mechanism to project the *threat* of banning
Radix says:
i mean, why isn't there a positive outcome for high rep? the only function is a negative one, which reveals its real function.
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Radix says:
and of course, the name itself is disingenuous. this is scarily similar to how actual fascists work.
Peblo: Hey, very good point. Loophole sort of relies on the admins being fair and impartial though, eh? Maybe on some other website.
I can't say I don't think a genuine warning or reputation system is categorically a bad idea, but this is some sort of horrible fusion of a flawed warning system disguised as a rep system, and it reeks of foul motives.
It's a simple idea - and if it doesn't work, we can change it.
It's really not a big deal - simply, when people misbehave here, the only thing we can do is ban them (which can be too harsh depending upon the situation).
The ban system still applies - if you go spam racist comments, you'll be banned straight away. If it's something less serious, you'll get a warning. The positive reputation was just something as an extra - which I thought some may like. If you want, I can get rid of the positive reputation and keep it as a simple warning system. Your choice.
The fact you're trying to make us look bad by saying it's a disguise and has foul motives - really doesn't work neither.
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Peblo Custom ratings must be 50 characters or less
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14th July, 2007 at 11:50:24 -
Okay. I'm wondering if my question still stands.
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath
I don't have a problem with that. I'm choosing to believe you just haven't thought this through properly. If you genuinely intended this to be a warning system, why not change the name, scrap the postive points for good deeds mechanism (there's no way that's going to be carried out properly. First of all, things are going to be missed fairly often. Second, multiple admins reacting to the same event are going to double up on points, unless there's a log of some sort, which would be too much effort to check as frequently as would be necessary. Finally, most of you will get sick of it soon enough), and simply have negative strikes removed automatically after a fortnight or something.
At the very least, please change the label. What you're talking about here has nothing to do with reputation.
What would you like me to change it too?
And if you have any other ideas for moderation, please do tell us. We're simply trying to improve things around here after the whole Phizzy thing - no need to bite our heads off.
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14th July, 2007 at 11:56:53 -
How will the reputation system work? Will you subtract points from rep if people misbehave, and if the rep goes under a number like -120 then they're banned? Because then positive points would absolutely ruin the system.
"Isn't it always amazing how we characterize a person's intelligence by how closely their thinking matches ours?"
~Belgarath