Instead of buying off games, why not keep the original author's name on it but add your name as the graphic artist?
Hell, if my project made any money and someone did the graphics for it, I'd let him take 50% off everything. But I certainly wouldn't sell the rights for something on which I worked hard, long hours, especially if my name was going to be removed from the project.
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I won't make a judgement on his graphics skills or web design or anything, but I don't understand why people are so upset over the idea of someone not wanting to program and JUST do graphics. That is how it works in the "real" games industry. You have modelers, concept artists, programmers, testers, designers, etc. Some people are cut out for certain things and not for others, which is why many people contribute to those things instead of just one.
I enjoy both doing the programming and the art design, but music is out for me. As far as "real" programming goes, I already know it isn't my area and I would never be interested in it, so if I were to try to get a job in the games industry I would be pretty angry if someone told me they didn't respect me or think I was a real game designer just because I work in one area and not the others.
Anyway, he's here offering to pay you for things you usually do for free and past problems seem to have been misunderstandings. I'm unclear on whether he's offering credit to you or just paying to use it without credit, but either way, you aren't being held at gunpoint, and at the very worst he would NOT pay you. . . for something that anyone on the internet could just steal anyway.
JustinC, I have no problem with him paying me to program a game for him - but I wouldn't want to put all that work in and find that the game says "MADE BY AMEN-RA AND NOBODY ELSE" or something.
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DaVince This fool just HAD to have a custom rating
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10th January, 2008 at 14:39:13 -
Originally Posted by JustinC I won't make a judgement on his graphics skills or web design or anything, but I don't understand why people are so upset over the idea of someone not wanting to program and JUST do graphics. That is how it works in the "real" games industry. You have modelers, concept artists, programmers, testers, designers, etc. Some people are cut out for certain things and not for others, which is why many people contribute to those things instead of just one.
There's one big difference here though, and that's that there doesn't seem to really be any team collaboration. You code the game in its whole and send it to him, rather than the usual way of both people planning, working and discussing things at the same time.
Also, I don't code games with placeholders. I code games with graphics that fit the mood of the game. YOU try making a complete game with great music that flows nicely with the gameplay and the -WHAT?- Oh, you can't incorperate graphics into the rest of the game; they're just placeholders. No. I need to make graphics that work with the rest of the game, or else the game's mood is kind of ruined.
imagine if he took A Game with a Kitty, then raped replaced his graphics with some photoshop-rendered stuff he pumped out in a few hours. It wouldn't work! He'd need odd techno-factory-pulsing-strange-metally music to work with it! Oh, he'll need to change that dialog. It wouldn't work.
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DaVince This fool just HAD to have a custom rating
"JustinC, I have no problem with him paying me to program a game for him - but I wouldn't want to put all that work in and find that the game says "MADE BY AMEN-RA AND NOBODY ELSE" or something."
No I'm totally with you on that, I feel the same way. But he doesn't seem to be deceiving anyone, I reread his post and now see that he's clearly stating what he plans to do.
Back in the 80s Atari and the other companies would simply pay the people to make the games and then stamp "Made by Atari" on them without giving any credit. I think it was the game "Adventure" that the designer put a secret in where you could see a list of credits of who did what and it sparked a whole bunch of controversy over whether the designers should get credit.
I would put a coding credit in, never said I wouldn't.
A game with a multiple choice quiz attached would very much be what I like, questions would come via an outside spreadsheet, example here
http://www.avantivitastudios.com/Data/quizexample.xls
game has to access these documents, not have the questions hand put in the game, has to access the spreadsheet, that way questions can be changed just by changing the spreadsheet document.
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