First you need to learn how to program something that can communicate with the motherboard. I'm not using an "operating system" that runs inside of an operating system. That's called an "Explorer".
he deserves a blunt answer for such a vague question. its like one of us going "i want to make a game, any ideas on how to go about doing that?"
an operating system is a complex series of programs and libraries etc. it takes literally TEAMS of people to write and produce windows operating systems and communities of developers for EACH linux distribution.
quite frankly, "go to college" is the best advice anyone can give him. or point him to the linux/unix communities to be a part of the next distribution.
Even the term "operating system" is quite vague. Docter's "operate" on a patient during surgery, does he want to create a machine that does surgery? Maybe "good operating system" means a system that is good at operating? People who count cards at casino's are often accused of "beating the system", a system is basically anything that is controlled within a boundary. All systems can operate, whether it's a navigation system calculating locations from GPS signals, or an economic system, organising the ownership and allocation of economic resources within a certain community.
(Note: this post is entirely sarcastic and is an example of what happens when I'm extremely bored All in all, I agree, there's no way a single human being could create a Windows-standard operating system by themselves from scratch. Not without years and years of college and university training and a whole lot of money and even then it would be almost impossible.)
Cecil is a bit right yes. An OS requires large teams of people who work on nothing else for years, and then they split the team into folk who carry on updating the old system and folk who start working on a new one.
You won't get far being 1 person, especially one who's asking how to start making an OS on hobbyist game developer forum
Making a standalone OS is a good idea if you are trying to build a machine with an embedded function; for example, making an OS that was really just a game (created in Assembly, or C or something) would be far more efficient, and would eliminate the feel that it is a PC slapped inside an arcade machine.
Originally Posted by -Julian- All in all, I agree, there's no way a single human being could create a Windows-standard operating system by themselves from scratch. Not without years and years of college and university training and a whole lot of money and even then it would be almost impossible.)
No, that would be possible.
Anyhow, I think a lot of us probably have cool UI ideas we've created over the years, and making an OS is the first logical idea that comes up for implementing them. As was said, a full-fledged OS takes a lot of work. If you want to get in on the OS making scene, find a nice linux community and listen to the pros until your ears fall off. However, if you just want to make an interface, you could conceivably do so in MMF2. It would be a bit pointless, I think, and integrating useful features other than a calendar and calculator would be hard, but you could give it a go.
Originally Posted by OldManClayton
No, that would be possible.
Not in the slightest you'd have to enlist all the major software publishers to produce a version for your OS, which in turn (since it's a new and untested product in the market) will have them asking you to front the development costs. Plus marketting and advertising blah blah.
IIRC there was a group of kids a couple of years ago who tried to set up their own OS to rival Windows and OSX, god knows what became of them.
pretty much if youre thinking about making an OS, stick to a community developed OS like linux. a lot of less well known personal computer hardware run some form of linux or unix based operating systems, whether it be a full distro or a watered down version.
Originally Posted by OldManClayton
No, that would be possible.
Not in the slightest you'd have to enlist all the major software publishers to produce a version for your OS, which in turn (since it's a new and untested product in the market) will have them asking you to front the development costs. Plus marketting and advertising blah blah.
IIRC there was a group of kids a couple of years ago who tried to set up their own OS to rival Windows and OSX, god knows what became of them.
It wouldn't be marketable, but surely it's possible. We're not talking about successful. That's obviously preposterous. A computer geek stuck on an island with only his programming tools and a power supply could do it if that's all he did.
I always wanted an OS that was made purely for games. I wonder if that is possible. An Os that plays windows games and doesnt waste resources on crap like windows does. It would make the games many times faster.
i think squishy was refering to a tutorial i showed him a while back that showed how to make an "operating system" in mmf2, but of coarse it was a standalone app. i think he wants to take that concept and actually turn it into a real operating system. would this be possible? if so i would definitely work on something like that
[Game design makes my brain feel like its gonna explode.]
Originally Posted by \/\/olf I always wanted an OS that was made purely for games. I wonder if that is possible. An Os that plays windows games and doesnt waste resources on crap like windows does. It would make the games many times faster.
Can't any videogame console sort of qualify for this? With the exception of the newer consoles which are becoming more all around entertainment systems rather then base game running consoles.
Originally Posted by siven i think squishy was refering to a tutorial i showed him a while back that showed how to make an "operating system" in mmf2, but of coarse it was a standalone app. i think he wants to take that concept and actually turn it into a real operating system. would this be possible? if so i would definitely work on something like that
ya and it may be possible to make this operating system to work by makeing it start up in place of windows by tweeking the system start up operations cause my step dad showed me a thing where i can turn the programs, that start up automatically, off
Msconfig saves my life regularly. For whatever reason if my iMac ever crashes in XP sometimes startup items get corrupted (never had this problem when the drive was Fat32 ) and will then always crash after XP is just done booting. Safe mode>msconfig>great success.
I think I managed to get rid of some viruses by using msconfig (and a lot of virus-destroying programs)
If you really want to make an operating system, you'd also have to design your own version of "msconfig". And basically your own version of the whole system folder, which you'd have to write tons of libraries for and tons of code, then somehow relate the whole system to your motherboard etc. It would have to support installation of drivers and applications, as well as different programming languages.
There are extensions that save and load files, and a lot of other system related events for MMF2, but even MMF2 is being run by Windows everytime you use it, as is every program, so if you managed to get your computer to run your "operating system program" instead of Windows starting up when you turn on your computer, the program would not be able to run because it needs Windows to do so. Which is why you really couldn't call it an "operating system".
Msconfig FTW! And Diag! (The underrated computer stat checker) and control userpasswords2! And cmd! and regedit and ipconfig and services.msc and sfc and a trunkload of others.