Knights of the old republic
(best game if all you want to do is talk to people (it's good, unlike Zelda game where you don't really get to participate in the conversations))
Originally Posted by Ricky Knights of the old republic
(best game if all you want to do is talk to people (it's good, unlike Zelda game where you don't really get to participate in the conversations))
I'd definitely go with KOTOR, but I personally think KOTOR 2
is even better. (In my opinion)
Originally Posted by Ricky Knights of the old republic
(best game if all you want to do is talk to people (it's good, unlike Zelda game where you don't really get to participate in the conversations))
*GASP* *CHOKE* *DIE* How dare ye say that??
KOTOR got old for me. I frankly don't enjoy all the dialog stuff-- it's all set anyway. Just wastes time and makes you sort through every option just so you can get past a certain gate or not get your arms torn off by a wookiee.
I'm not comparing the whole games to each other, just this one aspect. There is little too no interactivity in the dialog of zelda games.
In KOTOR you can argue with players with tons of options of what to say back to the characters. My favorite conversation was when i convinced a wookie to kill it's best friend.
Originally Posted by Tomatokid Originally Posted by Ricky Knights of the old republic
(best game if all you want to do is talk to people (it's good, unlike Zelda game where you don't really get to participate in the conversations))
I'd definitely go with KOTOR, but I personally think KOTOR 2
is even better. (In my opinion)
I never tried KOTOR 2, but I heard the story isn't as good, In never saw the twist coming in kotor 1.
Actually, Startrek Online is supposed to be just that. However I'm not letting myself get my hopes up, because it could very easily just completely fail.
I have a computer game called.
Galactic Civilizations 2.
Its like a turn bases strategy game, where your goal is to take over the galaxy.
But you have to colonize planets, and build an army.
It was really fun back when I played it.
You might want to check it out!
Or if your looking for a online game, I heard some good stuff about that EVE online game.
Your just jealous that you're not as awesome as me.
(And my megaman avatar )
yes, you can buy it for $9.99 US online, but seriously, not a cent of that goes towards anyone who was ever involved in any way with the development or resources or design or production in any way.
Is it illegal? Yes
Is the law enforceable? Absolutely not
Is it amoral? No
now if you go jaywalking over the street across from your house and a dozen men from scotland yard pop out and say 'A-HA' from behind some inconveniently placed bushes, maybe you should reconsider, but over here these sorts of thing are more of a moralistic question
would you pay bill gates if you bought a painting from a hippy at a coffee shop? Atari didn't make MOO2. Theres no reason to blindly follow laws irregardless of morality, one serves the other
but yeah, I'd highly recommend MOO2 over FreeOrion, MOO2 was a classic in its day.
If Bill Gates owned the painting and I was buying it, (for some reason) then yes. The law is set up that way on purpose. Doubtless the free trade world would not work without rights buying and other things. This isn't a case of blindly following rules. It makes sense. It's how the industry works.
If that aging hippy died in a drug overdose and Bill Gates purchased his desiccated corpse and a couple junky paintings next to it for a few nickels from a few looting hobos, and threw it all in the depths of his vaults beneath his palatial estate, with his only interest being absorbing the remaining biomass for his own fiendish occult rituals.
Which is a rough translation of how Atari got the intellectual rights from the company that actually made it
Originally Posted by OldManClayton It's suddenly not immoral to steal?
Piracy is, in the eyes of the law and legislation, not regarded as theft, despite what the marketing departments that craft those intrusive adverts might imply.
if tomorrow every government in the world abolished the concept of 'ownership' and decided that stealing was perfectly legal, then what? If a Pillsbury spokesman went out into the street and cruelly pelted the starving homeless with loaves of bread for his own amusement, would it be amoral if one of them kept the bread to feed their families, instead of returning it to its 'rightful owner', just for him to pelt it at their heads again?
The point isn't that we need something, but rather that not all theft can be categorically called amoral. Thats something that needs to be judged of its own merits, rather than universally condemned. Were Bill Gates using some dead hippy's severed right hand to summon mephistopheles with the blood of a hundred virgins, I wouldn't be too personally bothered about xeroxing a copy of a couple of paintings he didn't even know he had, that were painted by someone long dead. After all, when you pay $9.99 US for Master of Orion 2, where is that money going? None of it will go into the hands of those who put their hard work into the coding, none to those who labored on the pixel art. Rather it goes to a faceless corporate entity who absorbed the dead husk of Simtex simply so that they could whore out the title for a soulless third installment in search of profits.
I guess if I were a dead celebrity, I wouldn't want to be on TV dancing with a Vacuum Cleaner
Originally Posted by OldManClayton Oh psh. Rubbish.
I understand why you'd think that - it's a logical and fair assumption that piracy is theft, and it's an assumption that's been harnessed by various marketing bodies to defend their IPs, which has only served to strengthen the general public belief on the matter. Regardless, it's not. There is a legal difference between copyright infringement and theft, written under legislation (and it's the law that defines theft, so subjective 'what if, let's say' scenarios like the ones posed above aren't really relevant). The law is awfully black and white at the level of definitions, and copyright infringement and theft are neither classed nor treated as the same.
I rustled up the first link I came across which explains it more specifically, also using real life cases as reference, in case you were interested in learning more:
I meant to edit my post to say that I meant that that was irrelevant. The legal distinguishment between piracy and theft is relatively unimportant to what we were discussing. The only difference would be the consequences, not the legality of it.
Reminds me of that old kid's movie...what was it? Where the lady says, "I hate it when you call them stinkers..." It was one of those seemingly-overabundant seal movies...
Wow, it went from online sci-fi games to movies about seals.
Guys, start another topic about piracy. It's more fun for others to join in that way
Disclaimer: Any sarcasm in my posts will not be mentioned as that would ruin the purpose. It is assumed that the reader is intelligent enough to tell the difference between what is sarcasm and what is not.
Well in response to the initial question, what about Mass Effect? I don't know how much galaxy exploring is involved but it looked like it had aliens. . .
You ARE talking about Starflight, the one that started it all.
OLD EGA game. There's a more graphical version for Sega Genesis, if you can *get* it *somehow*.
This genre is usually called Space Adventure. You can consider Mass Effect as a light space adventure/action/rpg, for example.
But I like this type of game, so I already made some research. There's others, some of them with demos, just Google those names and you find it:
Escape Velocity Nova
Freelancer
Independence War II - Edge of Chaos
The Battlecruiser/Universal Combat Series (really hard to learn and a bit buggy, but some of them are free)
Flatspace I & II
EpochStar
There's some older ones, if you know how to use DosBox:
Elite II & III
Protostar
Nomad
Sad they don't make this kind of game anymore. I guess the hole "gather a crew and equip a ship to explore the unknown galaxy" think is too hardcore for today's standards...
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I dunno. 
There are star trek games. 
Edited by Ricky
This is pointless. I have more fun things to worry about. 
