Originally Posted by OldManClayton I have written it all out several times and deleted it because I don't have the time nor the patience to argue with you over it, especially when apparently nobody cares whether people make big fabrications and get by with it. My last post was not intended to convince others or I would have posted evidence. It was intended to declare that I was completely convinced. Good grief, how old was Chloe? She moved in your house to make games (bet your wife loved that) and then up and quits altogether? Either this is all the most bizarre set of coincidences or I'm an idiot, because that is bogus. Hogwash.
But if nobody gives a hoot, why should I stir up trouble?
What I will say though is that you still don't have a license to be mean. Don't play innocent, because you have been very terse and unnecessarily caustic. Not just unwelcoming as I perhaps have been, but leaning past neutrality and into abrasiveness. Please be a little more respectful of people and I'll let you call yourself whatever the heck you want. It's not all too often I'm iron-fisted but I've had it up to here with this charade.
She's 19? How is that a problem? Me and my wife have known her for quite some time, but of cource you know more about it, so go ahead and get personal about it. And you don't know exactly the circumstances around why she left, I gave everyone the gist of it but I will not go any further about it. Sure she came to make games, but that's not the only reason, she has plenty of friends out here. And even if those weren't true, those don't exactly qualify as coincendences, but I do like the fact that you're apparantly trying to make me look like a pedophile. It's a wonder why I'm acting defensive about it. I'm also being very defensive about this because from my end they are personal attacks, and I really don't like it. How would you like it if you just started comming here and a bunch of people just start bombarding you with "HEY! You're a phoney, hey everyone, this guys a big fat phoney." I know you at least asked me to explain why the ip was the same, but alot of other people jumped out and started pointing fingers before I even had a chance to explain. It's going to keep comming up too, because there are a few people who've been judging me based on that fact, and that's really not fair to me.
As far as me being abbrasive you have no room to bring that up, not that I'm saying anything about you, but because that's none of your business. None of it was directed towards you and PLUS all of that was on Gamebuilder, and from my point of view it was more than justified, and I don't expect you or anyone to get it, because you won't. We won't get into that nonsense again, so let's please not bring it up. The only person I have been abbrasive to is Mr.Sludgy, and frankly he's just been a douche, and he's been attacking me even before that mess on Gamebuilder and I sincerely hope you would not condone his behavior.
Seriously, I really don't care if you think I'm being a snot, but being a snot back doesn't make anyone look good. I really am trying to visualize you as a decent admin, but after that post it's really difficult. Admins are supposed to be the ones breaking up the trouble, and I realize that I did ask you to explain your "evidence", but if you were going to say it that way you could have sent me a message. I really don't like that you were the one that said you were going to give me the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not buying it. I'm not trying to be a jerk to you, but I am dissapointed.
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Argh, I kinda wanted to go to bed but see here thinking about tdc in my half-asleep-state.
K
Here is my point of view, it was if like I would poof vanish and a day later my "brother" would come online saying I had some issues and quit the site. Then 2 days later my brother would release a game. And then 4 days later would post a weird silly topic.
Ok hard pill to swallow but, shees. I think this is the part that ticked most people off, omg-games even if you are telling the truth and you know for all we know you prob are but then dont post this topic. That was just not the right time for it.
You know the:
"...can I not send points to myself!? I am totally offended by this. If I think that I deserve a pat on the back, should I not be able to give it to myself? I demand to speak to the manager. "
I know its trying to be funny but if you are already in hot water, dont do stuff like that. I hope thats a lesson learned then, of couse people will see that as more fuel on the flame.
I stand a 100% in the opinion of our admin Oldmanc, and you cant blame him for giving him his well respected and earned opinion. Now, please do not keep fighting this, if you are who you say you are you should not have to defend yourself and so what if some people dont believe you, you just have to win peoples respect back and thats going to take a while and silly topics such as these, .. you know is not a good start.
Now with that being said.. I am off to bed
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so let me get this straight? me misquoting you(admittadly, i misread a post and restated what you said in different words), defending omc, tossing a sarcastic remark (followed by others) which you react negatively to and me again tossing out another sarcastic remark which you also respond negatively to, defending gamebuilders halloween competition results from your less than admirable reaction to losing, telling you to look around and get your facts straight before you make such blatently wrong statements/accusations, and having a problem with your overall negative and childish attitude qualifies me as attacking you? and being a douche?
no one else here has a problem with me that i know of but you. and YOU JUST GOT HERE! the only thing ive done to you is have a problem with your negative attitude towards almost everyone and everything shortly after you arrived. omc tried to apologize more than once and youve just been a dick about it.
Originally Posted by Ricky Yeah, Mr.Sludgy is a real pain. He's your typical bandwaggoning parents basement living in jerk.
Nice to know that Gamebuilder mods like to read private conversations between their users. You can change what I said to him to "OVERLY PARANOID bandwaggoning parents basement living in jerks". If that's how you and the rest of the mods act over there, then that only makes it seem to me even more that your "contest" was fixed, and was just an attempt by a few kids that are out of touch with reality and got picked on in high school to look neat in front of people they don't know and will never meet. It's very sad, because alot of the people that participated in that contest put up some really great stuff, and there were so many other games on that list that deserved that money that problably doesn't even exist. I mean, come on, it was like watching Americas Funniest home video. You sit there, hoping the kid that got hit square in the head by a basketball from half-court WHILE HE WAS RUNNING PURPENDICULAR TO THE BALL wins the ten grand, but it ends up going to the one of the snotty little girl that refuses to play her part in a play and is not the least bit funny. Your happy and friendly atmosphere at gamebuilder is a crude and sad illusion. Not everything in life is a freakin bowl of cherries, so instead of casting aside and ignoring those who are obviously having a bit trouble being happy or friendly, maybe you could try to figure out why they are unhappy, angry or tough to get along with. It's called communication, and it's apparant that very few of you actually know what it's about.
The real sad thing is I'm very easy to get along with, I'm just at the wrong place at the wrong time. It problably has happend to most of you, if not it will happen, but its a real great feeling when you're standing up for yourself, and no one else has the guts to give you a hand. I've said alot of things this past week, according to most of you everything out of my mouth has been wrong and you know for damn sure that's not true, but so far none of you have had the guts to say so. You're too busy trying to look good to the establishment. The sad things about clubs is that almost always someone has to be outcast. I'll tell you one thing that your communities need is more people willing to have some personallity, and more people willing to do something different, not everyone can agree on everything all the time, that's just makebelieve, and if you've somehow managed to surround yourselves with people that think and feel the exact same things you think and feel, then how the hell are you not like Hitler?
But here's exactly whats going to happen, either a bunch of people that I don't know are going to chime in and start saying something stupid like "TL;DR that makes me more than qualified to base my opinion of you on your first sentence and well golly gee, you're a jerk, you don't know nothin bout nothin some smart inside joke of the community that everyone but you will get lost chumley." or everyone will shut up and grumble to themselves and send eachother notes going "oh that guys a meanface" "I know, let's stare at his picture and ask my mom for bagel bites" and problably a mod will send me a message saying "you're the cause of all these problems, not any of the other guys that have been here for ever they couldn't possibly have anything to do with it, ban ban ban" and possibly lock the topic right after some other guy chimes in with something smartassed that does nothing but try to insult me.
The point of that last part is to prove me wrong.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Sludgy wow. i said i was done but this is too rich.
so let me get this straight? me misquoting you(admittadly, i misread a post and restated what you said in different words), defending omc, tossing a sarcastic remark (followed by others) which you react negatively to and me again tossing out another sarcastic remark which you also respond negatively to, defending gamebuilders halloween competition results from your less than admirable reaction to losing, telling you to look around and get your facts straight before you make such blatently wrong statements/accusations, and having a problem with your overall negative and childish attitude qualifies me as attacking you? and being a douche?
no one else here has a problem with me that i know of but you. and YOU JUST GOT HERE! the only thing ive done to you is have a problem with your negative attitude towards almost everyone and everything shortly after you arrived. omc tried to apologize more than once and youve just been a dick about it.
why has this topic not been locked yet.
Someone doesn't know the definition of sarcasm. And this is what ticks me off more than anything about gamebuilder, everyone just assumes that because I'm angry about the results of the competition that it's because my game lost. Notice how I've never said anything of the sort. I never started being negative until everyone started telling me I was negative. I'm not going to deny I've been negative, but sheesh, it's like most of you have a really big head. We really got off on the wrong foot, and you've continually placed all the blame squarley on me for all of this nonsense. We both acted foolishly, so could you stop trying to play hot-potato with me?
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I'm still loling that you think the whole competition was fake. The scores were divided into 4 categorys. Tamapumpkin scored perfect for Graphics, Music and happiness. It deserved those perfect scores and doubt you can honestly deny the music sounding good, the graphics being really pretty and the overall game being happy. So that just leaves points for gameplay, which even if I gave it a zero, it would still have been in the top 3.
As for us pretending to be happy, you got it all wrong. Happiness is a choice, and it's not the same thing as agreement either. There's tons of things I and the other admins disagree on but still manage to get along.
Originally Posted by Rikus Argh, I kinda wanted to go to bed but see here thinking about tdc in my half-asleep-state.
K
Here is my point of view, it was if like I would poof vanish and a day later my "brother" would come online saying I had some issues and quit the site. Then 2 days later my brother would release a game. And then 4 days later would post a weird silly topic.
Ok hard pill to swallow but, shees. I think this is the part that ticked most people off, omg-games even if you are telling the truth and you know for all we know you prob are but then dont post this topic. That was just not the right time for it.
You know the:
"...can I not send points to myself!? I am totally offended by this. If I think that I deserve a pat on the back, should I not be able to give it to myself? I demand to speak to the manager. "
I know its trying to be funny but if you are already in hot water, dont do stuff like that. I hope thats a lesson learned then, of couse people will see that as more fuel on the flame.
I stand a 100% in the opinion of our admin Oldmanc, and you cant blame him for giving him his well respected and earned opinion. Now, please do not keep fighting this, if you are who you say you are you should not have to defend yourself and so what if some people dont believe you, you just have to win peoples respect back and thats going to take a while and silly topics such as these, .. you know is not a good start.
Now with that being said.. I am off to bed
In my defense for starting this topic, I had no idea I was in "Hot Water". Seriously guys, I really didn't think explaining the situation qualified me for being negative or a jerk to everyone. And in all fairness, only one person, one stinking person had the decency to at least play along. You should all rethink how you're dealing with this situation. Is it really wrong to criticize me for trying to make a light of a situation that from that point in time didn't seem like a big issue to me? Honestly I'm having some major issues with depression, just because someone has a hard time dealing with a few words means everyone has to make me feel like a jerk for posting a joke? For crying out loud, please ignore this but I hope one of you chokes. Maybe we'd all get along better if all of us didn't have to be right all the damn time.
You don't have the full story on why she quit, so lets just leave it at that. I'm not getting on clayton for his opinion, I really think it's low of him to respond like that. I dare you to read any of my posts and see if I get anywhere close to a personal attack on anyone (other than calling Mr.Sludgy a douche, but believe me I've been trying to fight that one back for a while). For crying out loud, the guy implied that I was a pedophile for having a girl that is 3 years younger than me stay at my house for a few months. I really don't see how any of what I said was bizzarre, apperantly some of us haven't lived. I'm sorry I can't shed anymore light on the situation, but I'm not about to blab Chloe's personal business all over the internet, and plus is it really relevant? I know that he's an admin and hes respected and whatever, but did you even read what he said about me? Come on, seriously you can't sit here and tell me that it's all my fault and I'm the only one being negative, because that's just plain ignorant. You say that if I'm not her that I shouldn't need to defend myself, but goddamn it, I do, and I'm sure you or anyone would in the same situation. I have people that have the nerve to sit around and call me a liar for something they have no real knowledge about, and you seriously think that anyone is going to take me seriously or give me any respect if this is still going around? Hell no.
The fact that I just got here is irrelevant to the situation. If you walked into a room somewhere and someone stabs you with a fork, then you punch him back and he says "you just got here, you can't defend yourself, that's just childish and silly", how outrageous of a situation is that? I might be new to this community but I'm not new to people. And it really seems to me that most people here don't like anyone thats different.
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Originally Posted by Ricky I'm still loling that you think the whole competition was fake. The scores were divided into 4 categorys. Tamapumpkin scored perfect for Graphics, Music and happiness. It deserved those perfect scores and doubt you can honestly deny the music sounding good, the graphics being really pretty and the overall game being happy. So that just leaves points for gameplay, which even if I gave it a zero, it would still have been in the top 3.
As for us pretending to be happy, you got it all wrong. Happiness is a choice, and it's not the same thing as agreement either. There's tons of things I and the other admins disagree on but still manage to get along.
Yeah, hiding behind the scores really shows off your judging skills. Most of the other games in the competition were scored so shoddily that they didn't even stand a chance. Sure maybe the game deserved good scores in all of those catagories, but so did alot of the other games that you so easily passed over. I was also under the impression that the happiness score was open to interpretation, which it blatantly was not. And based on how the scoring went, and what you've said, it obviously boiled down to a contest about looks, you could have easily thrown out the other scores and made it a hell of alot easier on everyone.
Spare me the happiness rhetoric. Sure it's a choice, but right now I'm very angry and if I don't express it, I'll problably end up stabbing several people in my general vicinity. Happyness is a choice, but you should never use it as an excuse. It's great that you and the admins can get along, but I can guarantee that same sympathy does not stretch down to the lesser known members of the community.
I have some really interesting tidbits of information in my posts, and if anyone of you could take the time to read it without assuming that its 100% negative and blaming others for my own problems (which if you actually read some of it you would know they aren't) then maybe some of you might learn something.
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Oh yeah, and as far as the compo being fake, see, I'm not the only one who can base my opinion on someone without any real evidence.
P.S. real manly of you to ban me from Gamebuilder, seeing as how I didn't make any posts on gamebuilder since you told me to shut up. I was having a conversation with someone, and unlike everyone else, he was actually letting me vent to him. I know I said you could've banned me at any time, but it's real convienient how you did it after you let me know you were reading our private messages. I really really would like to say some very obscene things right now, but I'm going to try and calm down and not. I may not be respected or have earned my opinion, but if anyone here backs you up for your recent actions, then you aren't people, and don't even dare give me anything about being negative. You make me sick.
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Originally Posted by Ricky I'm going to see if I can reverse that decision. You haven't done anything on GB since the warning.
Whatever, it doesn't matter anymore, it's done. This whole situation is a big mess. Sorry I shit on everyone elses day. Just leave me alone.
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i had this ginormous rebuttle to your "prove me wrong" that was spectacularly written. but now i just kind of feel sorry for you. im leaving you alone now.
P.S. real manly of you to ban me from Gamebuilder, seeing as how I didn't make any posts on gamebuilder since you told me to shut up. I was having a conversation with someone, and unlike everyone else, he was actually letting me vent to him. I know I said you could've banned me at any time, but it's real convienient how you did it after you let me know you were reading our private messages. I really really would like to say some very obscene things right now, but I'm going to try and calm down and not. I may not be respected or have earned my opinion, but if anyone here backs you up for your recent actions, then you aren't people, and don't even dare give me anything about being negative. You make me sick.
Aw man, someone said that site was going to get better but you were banned for something small like that? Things like this remind me how great places like TDC are.
Anyroad I'm not sure if you are who you say you are but I don't care. Chloe was alright and so was her zombie game, if you are her under a different name then I donut care. Just as I donut care if it isn't.
Hey so what happened to the Zombie game? Whoever you are I assume you know more about it than the us sh*tmunchers.
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um, oh sorry guys...I'll leave.