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18th January, 2010 at 14:02:50 -


Originally Posted by alastair john jack
Hilarious attempt at a game.



I wouldn't go that far but I understand why you'd say that. The chances of it failing are far higher than it succeeding, so you could easily come back here next month and say "Hah, I told you so!" and look all cool and stuff. Even if it gets favourable reviews, it could still be a commercial wipe out unless they get some really convincing advertising going. Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy wasn't a terrible nor hilarious attempt at a game. Its main fault was that the plot went crazy towards the end. I'm still interested in Heavy Rain and unless it completely bombs I'll be checking it out.

 
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18th January, 2010 at 14:26:49 -

It looks like they're trying to make it feel more like a movie than a game.

 
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18th January, 2010 at 23:05:42 -

Its basically a massive highlight of what's wrong with games at the moment - Games continually trying to become as close as possible to films.
For those who understand what games are and capable of, it's hilarious. For the masses, sure it's amazing.

 
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I personally think the problem is not with "movie games", but rather games emulating movies while pretending to be games. Take FF13. From everything we've heard about it, its little more than "Press X and cutscene" gameplay, hailed as the next great RPG. Total bullocks, for two reasons: A) Judged as a game, it would be terrible for pathetically uninspired ultralinear gameplay and B) Judged as a movie, its just horrid.

The real problem is that game producers make what are effectively just bad movies, and give them a little interaction and expect people to judge them on the same scale as games. MGS4 had great graphics for a "game", right? But its dozens of hours of cutscenes, and how can you compare those graphics to say Avatar 3D? It is not even close. Release most of this uninspired games as the movies they are underneath, and they'd flop hard. Nobody would watch that crud.

Heavy Rain, however, I believe shows a little promise for the simple reason that it *embraces* the fact it is merely an interactive movie. And I like that, its honesty in design and opens a lot of room for them to have less ostentatious gameplay and mechanics. I'd much rather play an interactive movie than an interactive movie pretending to be a game. Sure, its the kind of thing that could flop hard, but its also the sort of thing that can score big.

But just remember NOT to judge it on the same scale as a video game...

 
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30th January, 2010 at 16:26:46 -

Check out the latest trailer (Mall) on Gametrailers.com. This game looks better the more I see of it. There are also a couple of review scores on Metacritic already (92% and 90%) but these are early days. Looks promising, though.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-mall-heavy-rain/61347

 
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31st January, 2010 at 01:54:27 -

That's all it's really good at really, showing videos.

 
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31st January, 2010 at 07:17:09 -

I don't think this is your kind of game. Assuming you watched the Mall and Store trailers, do you really think that this game doesn't look interesting at least?

 
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31st January, 2010 at 08:15:47 -

The game doesn't look interesting at all. But yes, I do think the story and videos seem interesting .

 
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31st January, 2010 at 13:34:07 -

I like games like this, love the creativity and choice behind them. Obviously though you can only play it a few times before you start getting bored of the story though, as you know what will happen. Looking forward to the release

 
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6th February, 2010 at 03:56:14 -

Two new videos up on Gametrailers! Looks like a pretty good game.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/demo-sleazy-heavy-rain/61664

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/demo-crime-heavy-rain/61666

 
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7th February, 2010 at 07:29:44 -

4 reviews up on Metacritic now (average 95%) Albeit two of them are official Playstation magaines.. but still.

I wish the person playing these demo videos wasn't so good, so that we can see how the game reacts and adapts to missing a quicktime event, or losing a fight/argument. The shop robbery demo was good because it showed you several different angles on the same scene. This is THE selling point of the game so I'm surprised that they haven't released more like that. I'm also curious to see how they've managed save games here. If one of my characters dies and I can just load up a previous saved game then it's going to spoil some of the realism.

 
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9th February, 2010 at 09:05:17 -

I only played the demo, but it honestly feels like a crappy FMV-game from the Sega CD days. For all the creativity they have put into the intense presentation, they've taken the same amount away from the gameplay and mechanics. I'm sure it'll be an interesting story, if they avoid fucking it up like they did with Fahrenheit, but that still won't really cut it for me, when it's basically just an interactive movie filled with pointless QTE sections.

 
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11th February, 2010 at 03:44:30 -

(oh my god it's Sumez!)

Why are all the positive reviews I'm reading written by magazines/websites, and the negative ones are written by individuals on forums?

Very positive review on Joystiq and a crap ton of 90%-plus reviews on Metacritic. It's looking good!

 
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11th February, 2010 at 05:17:23 -

because within the game industry they appreciate well made games even when they are of a more artistic nature.
individuals tend to rate games based on how much fun they had, not if the game itself was good and well made. and i would assume the average person would be a bit bored playing the game.

game informer gave it a 9.5/10.

 
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11th February, 2010 at 05:58:22 -


Originally Posted by Pixelthiefsorry but Australia has virtually no chance)



Thats alright, ill import it
I actually import my game from the UK, I get them cheaper from there than anywhere else

 
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