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21st May, 2010 at 02:16:44 -

So I have a US PSP and a US Playstation Network account, and the sad truth is that Crash Team Racing is not available on the US Playstation Store. My problem is, I really want to play it on this PSP right here without modding or anything (a.k.a. paying for it on the UK store.) Does anyone know who I need to talk to about getting it on the US store?

EDIT: I should also mention that I did try to make a UK account once, but I wouldn't have any European means of adding money on to it, and I never got the email you get halfway through the process of making one. I also wouldn't have had any legit billing info.

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21st May, 2010 at 02:45:17 -

I bought this game on PSN the other month Was my favourite PS1 game. Really not sure they'd put it up just for one person? Start a petition

 
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21st May, 2010 at 09:06:49 -

From what i remember it was a pretty good racer - certainly well above the majority of karting games at the time and probably since. I went through a bit of a stage of buying all the karting games on the PS1; Speed Freaks, Looney Tunes Racing, Muppet Racemania (loved that game!)...

They defo should have Crash Team Racing on PSN in the US!

 
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21st May, 2010 at 10:03:10 -

1) Can you switch the store to a different NTSC region? Axelay for the Virtual Console isn't available in the UK but I switched to Australia temporarily and bought it there, then switched back. Maybe you could try something similar.

2) Failing that, look for a PSN point card on ebay.

 
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21st May, 2010 at 10:42:31 -

I love CTR:- hope you manage to get hold of it

 
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21st May, 2010 at 13:57:01 -

If you have the original ps1 version I think there is a program that'll let you rip it to an eboot.

Can't remember the name of it though, and you'll need custom firmware to run it I believe.

 
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21st May, 2010 at 16:36:26 -

Would that be true for PS2 games also? I'd love to play Timesplitters 2 on my PC as I can't get my PS2 to run through the TV card. I tried emulating it but the performance was really bad :/

 
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21st May, 2010 at 17:14:57 -

No, the PSP cannot emulate PS2 games. Think about it, if Sony can't get PS2 emulation working on the much more powerful PS3, how would they do it on the PSP?

 
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21st May, 2010 at 17:20:29 -

I don't know, considering my question was based about playing it on the PC?

 
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UrbanMonk was referring to a program that takes the base PSP emulator from PSN PSP games and sticks the rom of another game into it, effectively making most PS1 games playable on the PSP.

 

  		
  		

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21st May, 2010 at 18:30:40 -

I see, so I assume the only way to get PS2 games onto PC is via bad bad emulators

 
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21st May, 2010 at 20:33:48 -


Originally Posted by Phredreeke
No, the PSP cannot emulate PS2 games. Think about it, if Sony can't get PS2 emulation working on the much more powerful PS3, how would they do it on the PSP?



Well they probably can emulate them on the PS3 if they want. The early models of PS3 were compatible with PS2 games, afterall.

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21st May, 2010 at 20:44:11 -

That's because those models had extra hardware. The european 60 gb and american 80gb PS3s has "software emulation" but that's only the Emotion Engine. The graphic chip is still in hardware on those (and missing on the later machines)

 
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Originally Posted by Jon Lambert
My problem is, I really want to play it on this PSP right here without modding or anything (a.k.a. paying for it on the UK store.)



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21st May, 2010 at 22:59:50 -

Good Luck then.

If you really want to play it you'll break eventually.
My psp was worthless before I managed to get DosBox and ScummVM running on it.

 
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pff, I gave up on waiting for it and just bought the original PS1 version from a game shop a few towns away. Came with the manual and everything.

 
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Here's a question--if you buy the game and own it, and then use that tool that puts it on the PSP, are you still doing something wrong since it's a breach of the user agreement (Somewhere, I'm sure custom firmware isn't allowed, and the emulator was ripped from another game)?

I guess it doesn't matter though, because you'd be waiting for a lot of updates to be able to get back on the PSN. And you wouldn't want that.

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23rd May, 2010 at 16:55:40 -

I'm pretty sure the emulator is stored in firmware. While copyrighted, the firmware is freely distributed by Sony on their network and on their website. I don't see anything wrong with modifying software that Sony gives away for FREE. Distributing in its complete modified state would be illegal though, better to just create a program to patch an official FW to do what you want. (homebrewers have done the same to the wii system menu, to disable region checks and bypassing the retarded health warning, not sure if PSP CFW works the same way)

 
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23rd May, 2010 at 18:30:12 -


Originally Posted by OldManClayton
Here's a question--if you buy the game and own it, and then use that tool that puts it on the PSP, are you still doing something wrong since it's a breach of the user agreement (Somewhere, I'm sure custom firmware isn't allowed, and the emulator was ripped from another game)?



Of course sony doesn't want people to put custom firmware on their psp's, if they wanted that they would sell it preinstalled.

Fact is, if you own the device you can do anything you want with it. It's not modifying the device that's illegal, it's installing games that you have not purchased.

If you already own the game then modifying your psp to run it is completely legal, no matter how unrecommended it is by sony.

EDIT: oh yeah, and Phredreeke is right. The custom fireware installer is just a patch, it contains no copyrighted code. Which is why sony can't do anything about it.

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It's no question whether Sony wants you to do it.

According to this: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/08/modder-arrest-a-reminder-that-most-console-hacks-are-illegal.ars Even if you don't intend to run cracked software on it, modifying the software in such a way that allows it is still breaking the law.

Not that you'll get busted for it.

I wasn't concerned with the legal implications. I was thinking about breaking an agreement to use that emulator without having obtained it legally and that being okay. I looked into it, and it requires a "Base.pbp", which is undoubtedly obtained from a bought PSP-PS1 game, not the PSP's firmware. That emulator is copyrighted code.

At any rate, Jon said he wasn't going to mod to get it.

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Originally Posted by OldManClayton
According to this: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/08/modder-arrest-a-reminder-that-most-console-hacks-are-illegal.ars Even if you don't intend to run cracked software on it, modifying the software in such a way that allows it is still breaking the law.



Well the original psp had the ability to run homebrew out-the-box in first alliterations of it, so it's just a matter of whether or not you want to update and take that ability away. Can't arrest someone for something sony did at the beginning.

Also sony is selling a homebrew game on their psn store anyway, so they can't care too much now can they?
http://www.nogravitythegame.com/psp/

As for "base.pbp" you can obtain that legally by buying any game from the PSN store.
And the emulator is built-in to the psp's firmware. The base file is just needed for the conversion.
I myself don't own any ps1 games anyway, so I've never tried it.

EDIT: This post wasn't supposed to sound mean, but I just re-read it.

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26th May, 2010 at 02:34:46 -

Based on your post you don't really have any means to obtain the game legitimately so your only way of getting CTR would be through homebrew/modding it. I have my PSP modded and I can say that because it's modded I have actually kept it around much longer than I would have an unmodded one.

 
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