I wanted to try my hand at making a mode 7 / old school 3d game. (like F zero and mario kart for the SNES)
The problem is, I have no idea where to start. Ive tried searching the site and google for some sort of tutorial, but I cant get an working engine.
Do you think anyone can point me to a tutorial I was missing, or upload a small example?
Any help would be appreciated.
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These extensions may or may not work, but its worth a try .
The mmf2 version of the extensions are in the zip folder. Hopefully you can open the file!
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Do you mean the racing engine or the graphical engine?
For the graphical engine you could go with the mode7 object or one of the OpenGL objects floating around (just using one face without texture filter makes it look pretty modeseveny), in both cases you make a topdown engine and let the object make a projection of that on screen.
I find the real problem is making a convincing racing movement tho, I first tried it myself and then wore out three different coders and still got nothing nice enough.
The thing I am trying to get to work is just the graphical engine.
I have been trying to use the mode 7 object, but I cant seem to get it working for some reason. I've never tried OpenGL, do you think that would be any easier?
Im not too worried about the racing engine, after all, this is just a test to expand my knowledge. I doupt im going to make anything that nice.
But any examples or tutorials would be of great help.
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I have a new problem though. Now that I have my mode 7 engine going, I would like to get a good racing engine down. I do want to make a game like F-Zero (Where its 'hovercars' the cars aren't on the ground) I am thinking to do this, I kinda need a mix between an asteriods movement, and a racecar movement. So the 'hovercar' still has some traction, but not a lot, and slides when turning.
Does anyone have any better ideas? or any idea where I should start with this movement engine?
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If I made the entire engine, with collision detection and all. I just did not add mode 7 in (so It would be like a top down racing game). Then I went in and added mode 7 and an exact duplicate of the track, everything should still work in the mode7 world?
I don't know if this makes since, i'm horrible at explaining things.
It sounds like it should work in my head.
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Alright then, I think I am on the right track with making a decent engine! I now have a basic engine that allows drifting, acceleration, and some other things. The next thing I am going to do is add in the mode 7 object and some basic collision detection.
If I end up with anything decent would you like me to share it?
Do you think it would be possible to create a level editor for the mode 7 object? That way creating tracks and whatnot would be easier for all I have to do is draw out the sprites for the track, and just piece them together
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Is there an eta on that extension? I'm wanting to get excited about it but every extension that has promised to do 3D type stuff has been a letdown. The raycasting extension released recently has potential, but it seems like every extension with potential never gets updated.
Extension Released > People try extension > People are underwhelmed and mention things that could be improved > No further updates to extension > Extension fades into obscurity
That goes for mode 7 - released like 8 years ago and the raycasting extension which was released 9 months ago.
I started on a Kart racer years ago but the thing that killed off the project (pretty early on too) was mapping scaling 2d objects to a point on the track. That part went a little over my head.
Originally Posted by AndyUK I started on a Kart racer years ago but the thing that killed off the project (pretty early on too) was mapping scaling 2d objects to a point on the track. That part went a little over my head.
That's pretty much why I found that extension to be useless (and apparently most other people too considering how much I've seen mode 7 used in games). The thing that annoys me about that is that somebody spent time developing that extension but there was no effort to update it or get feedback from actual users. It seems like most click extensions are developed in a closed box with no attempt to see if actual Click users will be able to understand them or put them to use.
I've been messing with the mode 7 object, and it is harder than I thought.
I got a decent mode 7 engine, thanks to hayo! When i started with the movement, thats when it got hard. No matter what I try and make, it seems too choppy.
I finally got past that and am sort of happy with the movement engine, then came collisions...?
I don't understand this at all. I tried adding collisions with the 'real player' and the 'real track' and whatnot, but where the 'real player' is on the track, the 'mode 7' player is in a totally different position, thus making it a bit hard to add collision.
like JustinC said, they need to update it.
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You always have to look at the mode7 part, the whole on-screen part, as just a projection of a 2d topdown game. Once you do that everything gets easier.
To get to the point MacAdam, it's just what Hayo said. It sounds like your projection is wrong since the 'mode 7 player' is not on the same spot as the 'real player'.
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