Admittedly, there's a lot of crap on that list too, and there are a fair few classics still missing off both the '80s and '90s lists - but still, '90s cinema was better (cinema since 1999 has been generally poor, but like I said, the whole world has gone to pot since then...)
Wow, yeah...Judging from that list it's clear (to me at least) that the 90's beat the 80's in terms of cinematic quality. Although I have to admit that there were plenty of unforgettable characters created in the 80's, for sure.
I don't think discussing the downward spiral of the world since the end of the 90's in such a fun thread would be fair, although there's plenty of evidence to chat about (perhaps in another thread?).
Stuff from the 80's is a huge inspiration for me. Has anyone here mentioned 'the Dark Crystal' yet? It's probably my favorite movie of all time...
I was born in '88, so I'm glad I was brought up on the greatness of the 80's. Some 90's stuff weaseled its way in, though, but I can't pick anything out specifically - except games! Tyrian...
Edit: Seeing that list of greatest 90's movies jogged my memory. Lots of awesome stuff in there. I guess I take the 90's for granted!
Reading these posts reminds me why I should feel sorry for these kids who grew up watching at dragonball z and pokemon cartoons. TMNT, Woody Woodpecker and Alf ftw !
Every generation says that the era they grew up in was undoubtedly the best. Look at how the 60s is nostalgically remembered by our parents. I'm sure in twenty years there will be adults who enthusiastically claim that the 00's were the best era. They will rave on about Simon Cowell, Lost, Dr. Who, Harry Potter et al while we look at them in mild pity.
That said, the only music I listen to is computer game music from the 90s and much older 60s-70s music; and then the odd band from the modern era. Absolutely no mainstream music from around 1985-2011 quite does it for me. And modern music on the TV channels is ridiculously dire; do they actually realise you can make songs with more than 4 chords?
Modern games aren't as good as old games though, simply because commercial interests put pressure on the games to be very easy to beat. Games don't get made by one bloke with a good idea anymore, they're made by committee, which is a shame because you end up with compromised ideas.
Originally Posted by Matt Boothman Every generation says that the era they grew up in was undoubtedly the best. Look at how the 60s is nostalgically remembered by our parents. I'm sure in twenty years there will be adults who enthusiastically claim that the 00's were the best era. They will rave on about Simon Cowell, Lost, Dr. Who, Harry Potter et al while we look at them in mild pity.
That said, the only music I listen to is computer game music from the 90s and much older 60s-70s music; and then the odd band from the modern era. Absolutely no mainstream music from around 1985-2011 quite does it for me. And modern music on the TV channels is ridiculously dire; do they actually realise you can make songs with more than 4 chords?
Modern games aren't as good as old games though, simply because commercial interests put pressure on the games to be very easy to beat. Games don't get made by one bloke with a good idea anymore, they're made by committee, which is a shame because you end up with compromised ideas.
I have to say I personally disagree with this. You can not generalize stuff that easily.
For example I sadly know a lot of people who like what's currently considering "hip " and then move on just to like something newer. They wont hold onto old stuff.
I know a lot of people who are exactly my age but they wont look at any 80s stuff and don't really care about 90s stuff either.
they just got into movies in 2000 which makes me go like wtf
I know people above 30 who say they can't watch old movies because of their "bad quality " (we are talking about the Harrison Ford movie here where Dr kimbel gets chased by Tommy Lee Jones. I don't know the English title) .
So yeh while you might claim people defend their generation just luke they might defend their country this isn't true at all.
Just like I've said in my first post I know a lot of going people who "wish it were the 60s" (radio head) even tough they never lived in those days.
Wrestling was a lot better in the '80s. I mean, it was pretty bad even then, but now it's so much worse.
Some of the wrestlers from the '80s are still wrestling today - in their 50s and 60s!
And back then, wrestlers used to have kind of cool themes/gimmicks. Now they have people like Mr Anderson (aka Mr Kennedy), who is just an "asshole" (wears shirts with "asshole" written on; calls the crowd etc assholes) - you wouldn't think it possible, but even wrestling is dumbing down.
Looking at the list of 90s movies I have to admit that there have been way more movies I personally enjoy than in the 80s. And this is coming from me who started this thread. So much about being defensive about your own generation.
@MasterM: In some senses you're right, but in others you're wrong. Hence the endless programmes on television about 80s things, 90s things, things from when you were kids; general nostalgia. Ask your parents what TV programmes they liked as a child and they will most likely reel them off, and surprise themselves at how much they miss them.
I felt the same way about the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon...Until about a year ago when I watched a few of the episodes back-to-back. It's nowhere near as fantastic as I thought it was when I was a kid. It actually polluted my nostalgia. I used to say, "Oh man, I remember that cartoon. I wish I could see it today--it was so cool!" Now, I can say that sure, I watched it as a kid, but I don't exactly miss it. Had it not been a super-affordable bootleg version of the box set, I would have wanted my money back.
Some things are best left to being a childhood memory. Cartoons included.
Now, the Dragon's Lair cartoon...That's a different story. It's definitely held its charm. Same goes for Thundarr the Barbarian.
Originally Posted by Matt Boothman @Sketchy: DAMN!
@MasterM: In some senses you're right, but in others you're wrong. Hence the endless programmes on television about 80s things, 90s things, things from when you were kids; general nostalgia. Ask your parents what TV programmes they liked as a child and they will most likely reel them off, and surprise themselves at how much they miss them.
Tv wasn't invented yet when my parents were children
I liked the 80s and 90s because it felt like people were discovering new things all the time, particularly with computers. Especially during the 90s, a ton of sub-genres within electronic music were discovered.
The crappy thing about growing up then was that the creative tools were primitive compared to the programs going around these days. Now, 12 year old kids are making games with Flashpunk, Unity, Game Maker, MMF2.. the list goes on. I banged my head against the limitations of Mario Paint for about 2 years before we finally got a PC.
Originally Posted by nim Especially during the 90s, a ton of sub-genres within electronic music were discovered.
I saw a TV commercial for a new garage compilation recently. It seemed kind of weird to me that anyone would release a new compilation for a genre of shit music that was only popular for about 2 years, back around 2000-2002.
The problem with technology in music, is that the music becomes very dated. Like in the '80s, everyone was using primitive electronic synths, which might have been cool and new at the time, but now it just sounds shit.
And more recently, we have "autotune" which results in everyone singing in the same pitch-perfect, artificial sounding voice. Again, it was cool at first, but it's already getting very old (can you imagine what it will be like re-watching "Glee" in 10 years time?)
As for game-making, "Klik 'n' Play" came out when I was 12, and was arguably more powerful than MMF2, relative to commercial games of the day. ie. MMF2 is a relatively small improvement over KnP, compared to the difference between CoD and Doom, for example. So, you can't really complain.
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It's definitely held its charm. Same goes for Thundarr the Barbarian.
