Well, I sent Rikus a message on facebook. It's been a day and I haven't heard back from him.
I don't know if the general intent is to let the site die or let it rest until Rikus can devote more time and attention to it. I'm pretty sure we could rally at least a few of the site mods to produce some more updates if we can pitch in to drive more traffic to tDC. I was hoping this post could act as a sort of collective brainstorm so users could think up ideas to promote the site, advertize, or generally spread the word so that the last unofficial klik community site doesn't completely disappear.
No idea is too involved or outlandish. If you can think of anything, put it out here so we can consider some action.
Graphic designers can create banner ads. Writers can advertise on gamedev forums. Programmers could consider creating search engine SEO content generators. I'm not saying these ideas are feasible - they're just ideas. Discuss?
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One problem I think is that the site looks dated now. We were promised a new look months(years) ago and it never materialised. couple that with the lack of activity and from the outside (and inside at the moment) it would appear that no one seems to care about the site anymore.
I still think the main problem is a lack of traffic and that should be easy enough for a handful of people to commit to whether or not the site looks like it stumbled out of 2001. I'd offer to lend my web design skills if Rikus would freaking respond. If he wants to let tDC die off, no amount of traffic is going to fix anything.
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Site overhaul is a popular topic on the board these days.
My idea would be to downsize and start with 3.0 which wouldn't be an update that contains old stuff.
Because I believe dragging over old stuff was a problem with the back-end of this site (if I am wrong, please correct me).
Also I would organize a lot of things just in forum board sections, like reviews, projects and articles. Because that way it's way easier to maintain. Actually all those things from the navbar could be moved into a forum section.
And then use the frontpage to select/promote whatever is going on in the boards.
So TDC would become boards with a frontpage.
I'd like to see a website to helping hobbyists become better developers. Bring Projects to the forefront, and institute a feedback option that increases someone's exposure, status, or community prestige. It would be like mentorship for newbies.
A weekly/monthly roundtable that discusses current projects and their highlights, challenges, or bugs. The difference between this and a typical troubleshooting forum is that current builds are played or demo'd for/by the participants and they can offer immediate feedback. Implement some sort of video chat or audio chat roundtable feature. Pursue low-cost or low-entry-threshold video apps and so on to allow maximum participation, and implement a "kudos" or "thumbs-up" referral process that rewards those who continue to be supportive and encouraging to other developers.
Not to drive traffic away from this site or anything but how many people here would be interested in setting up a new "Daily Click"
It would/could incorporate a lot of the changes mentioned here and would be member driven even down to features. We could have a feature request section where members can +1 suggestions and once a threshold is passed the feature is implemented if it is possible,
Do away with the points thing, it is worthless. Instead implement a Rep feature where the most knowledgeable members gain rep when helping someone.
New mods could be voted on by the users of the site. A new project section in the form of blogs and an upload option for users share their ideas and downloads. One problem I have with this site at the moment is that you are forced to upload your file elsewhere before linking it here, the same with pictures. This would resolve the dead links issue and if needs be a tiered membership system could implemented. I hate the idea however we could offer more storage to subscribed users thus alleviating the costs of running the site from the owner/owners.
I appreciate that a lot of you, myself included, would be lost without this site but we need to do something to pull it out of the mud.
Quick update, but it's not much of an update. Rikus messaged me on facebook a few days ago and basically said he needed more free time to devote to explaining the situation with tDC. He said he would contact me sometime this weekend. I'm still waiting for that second contact.
I imagine Rikus plans to do something to revive the site - I can't say that for sure, but I'd suspect that if he wanted to stop supporting tDC, he probably wouldn't be logging in every couple of days anymore. I can't imagine Rikus simply ignoring tDC with the intention of letting it fail without officially saying goodbye somehow.
It's all speculation until tomorrow night, but for what it's worth; if the news be bad, I'm willing to brainstorm new community site ideas with y'all and devote what I can to accomplishing that goal. I know that most everybody is up-in-arms about a redesign, but I don't think an initial redesign is realistic with so few regular visitors.
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I think the site might benefit from more admins and the ability for the admins to add games to the site, back in the day we had folks make their own download page here but most folks now decide to just make their own website or make a download page with far more popular sites. If the admins can add games they like to the download page and add the authors original name to it that would help.
Also another section that tells you in what program the game was made in would also be a nice addition. Currently the site is being hosted by club and the domain name is being held by clickteam so in the end they will decide what will and will not happen, because of that disconnect with the limited time I have i dont feel its worth it putting so much time in the site anymore. I try every now and then with a splurge of updates cause I cant help myself but the return on it is not worth the time anymore.I have some ideas but i dont know if its worth putting that into tdc
So yes new admins will for sure keep the site active, but I think an entire overhaul is needed for the site to gain new people to come and visit, all the suggestions posted above are all valid and I urge you to tell them to club directly.
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Rikus - I kinda talked a bit with Jeff at Clickteam and he says he's aware that they are holding the domain, but unaware of any plan to do anything with tDC. I guess I don't understand why you feel Clickteam has a final say in how tDC operates or if it continues to operate. I can certainly understand a lack of freetime though.
So, about them new admins who will keep the site active... when? Soon maybe? That'd be awesome.
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