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ShadowCaster Possibly Insane Registered 02/01/2002 Points 2203	22nd November, 2003 at 02:18:36 - .M: Yes, that has been said, but they are still breaking the law in more than one way, which has already been established. First of all, they cant be sold unless they contain the "Fueled by Fusion" logo. Secondly, they're selling them for more than the production costs (i.e. they are making a profit from freeware). Even if they werent breaking the terms, it still isnt the moral thing to do without asking permission. Mike "Now I guess we're... 'Path-E-Tech Management'" -Dilbert
Pixalatio Registered 16/03/2003 Points 652	22nd November, 2003 at 16:48:56 - Kris: i was thinking of a html based email with something clever done in javascript, im pretty sure ive heard of it being done before not that i have any idea how to do it myself DOWN WITH THE FRAUDSTER Twas brillig, and the slivey toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe, All mimsy were the borogroves, And the momewraths outgrabe. http://www.pixalatio.tk - visit me please Did you know that your computer has secret buttons hiding behind others. I intent to never delete any part of my sig until it is t big to handle. for one small minute my rating was possibly insane
Capn Mud Guru Registered 09/11/2003 Points 127	22nd November, 2003 at 20:20:53 - yea! send them this and make them see the error of they ways. Those frickin' screw ups. www.burlapbuccaneers.cjb.net is the best site ever to be discovered.
nev` Registered 26/06/2003 Points 61	23rd November, 2003 at 05:21:47 - Paul (Heretic Emu Studios), that is an ignorant statement, actually. There would be no such thing as a registered trademark or copyright if what you suggested were true. My brother, in law school, happens to agree. Life is a rave. You enjoy it while its here, but forget it when its gone.
Capn Mud Guru Registered 09/11/2003 Points 127	23rd November, 2003 at 23:10:55 - also if that were true, people would be sued left and right for copyright infringement because of "borrowed" ideas and such. www.burlapbuccaneers.cjb.net is the best site ever to be discovered.
Radix hot for teacher Registered 01/10/2003 Points 3139	24th November, 2003 at 16:49:31 - He's right. Once upon a time you had to brand everything with a copyright, but nowadays, especially for personal intellectual property, it's implied by default. You'd actually have to state otherwise for copyright not to apply. n/a
Weston L Registered 16/12/2002 Points 1603	24th November, 2003 at 19:41:13 - You definetly have at least 5 years of protection if you just put (c)2003 on a game. I know that one for a fact. I'm pretty sure what Radix just said is true as well. n/a
ShadowCaster Possibly Insane Registered 02/01/2002 Points 2203	26th November, 2003 at 15:25:30 - Paul is correct, it's intellectual property. Though it doesnt cover everything, which is where copyright agreements and Terms of Use come into play. It mainly covers you from people taking your idea and saying it was their own, though the difficult part in most cases is proving that you had the idea first. Most commonly people will send themselves a sealed copy of whatever it is in a letter/parcel, that way you can prove using the post mark exactly when you formalised your idea. Unfortunately it doesnt cover you from people distributing your software, it only covers you from what I mentioned above, which is people trying to pass it off as their own. I havent read Paul's article, but I'm sure it's the same in most countries. Mike "Now I guess we're... 'Path-E-Tech Management'" -Dilbert
KanoBlade Registered 01/02/2003 Points 50	26th November, 2003 at 21:54:17 - this might sound stupid but bear with me.. Wouldn't The Giant Store have to send profit (or ask for new cd's) to the company that made the CD? :\|
Pkeod Oontz Oontz Oontz Registered 19/11/2002 Points 93	28th November, 2003 at 12:37:25 - It's like cake. The people you buy the ingredeants are already getting paid, and you own the stuffs when your buy them. Then when you make the cake, its all yours. You can sell it and all the profit goes to you. *of course you have other issues like taxes but that is why they wouldnt do that.. or have to do that. CAKE! Faerie Solitaire - Get it now: http://www.create-games.com/download.asp?id=7792
*The* Chris Street Administrator Unspeakably Lazy Admin Registered 14/05/2002 Points 48488	28th November, 2003 at 12:42:35 - or a paint by numbers. I purchase a paint-by-numbers art set, paint it, and sell it for a profit. Mmm, money. Still no website address that I can see, although I've been looking hard. Im still kinda amazed this topic is still up on the main boards, its nearly two weeks old. n/a
Blackgaze Possibly Insane Registered 01/11/2002 Points 3161	28th November, 2003 at 12:42:38 - Ingredeants? is that some kind of Tree? Formerly known as "Spiderhead". Returned after four years. www.youtube.com/user/sevlech for more infomation
HOSJ Registered 01/07/2002 Points 669	28th November, 2003 at 14:46:13 - I'm a Law student... Really. Gives me a headache and I'm only beginning. "They'll never find the bodies" Ashman
TH333 Registered 16/07/2003 Points 506	28th November, 2003 at 16:22:36 - I Just sent them an email telling them about this. Here's a copy of it: Excuse me, I want to know what the crap you're doing downloading freeware games from The Daily Click and selling them for 10 freiking dollars!!! If you don't get rid of of that "product" you're going to end up legally going down the drain! You would probably like to know that there is a HUGE group of people that want to sue your heads off and they probably will VERY soon if you don't get rid of that "product" and make sure nothing like that comes on your website again! I know all this because I am a member at The Daily Click. Also, it is illegal for many of these games to be sold anyways because they must include a certain logo in them which is required by the software they were made with! This letter is not a threat, just something to inform you that you're going to end up in ALOT of trouble if you keep selling the product "Total Arcade 2003"! I am expecting a reply from you very soon. Send that reply to... and then it says my e-mail address. I'll post again when I get a reply. n/a
LittleGuy (Ecstasy Studios) Registered 22/12/2002 Points 1497	28th November, 2003 at 16:31:02 - If you made a game in the Standard version of TGF or MMF and didn't write a statement on the game that says its FREEWARE but you MUST state the makers name when you distribute it and its found it's way to that CD then your pretty fcked, you even more fcked if you didn't put the TGF/MMF Logo in because then Clickteam could probably sue you, although the guys at clickteam are really nice guys and wouldn't do that. Thats just my distorted view of things. Cirtianly you have every right to complian. Thats the trouble with making FREEWARE, you've got to be prepared for people to put it on CDs and pass it on because as FREEWARE there allowed to do just that. A Crusader for the LittleGuy's Click Cell, a full fat community site, http://clickcell.tk
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