I've been against the whole notion of the click community dying, TDC going down, etc... every time someone brought up the topic. I mean, the DC certainly isn't all that the community is. The Click Community certainly isn't just about the DC; it's about the kliking in general. There's so much more, like Total Klik, Klik-Me, and #k&p, the only major groups left out there besides the Clickteam forums.
And lately, I honestly think that all the major groups (besides CT and Klik Academy) suck. The Daily Click (especially the forums and GOTW) is just a joke these days. Klik-Me and TK are just full of idiots. #k&p's also been overrun by idiots ever since it 'moved' to Blitzed.
Technologically, I believe that we can make games that'll make those Sega Genesis and Super Nintendo games look like utter crap. But mentally... ugh... just look around. People either talk about imitated, retarded, mindless crap or are so goddamn elitist they look down upon anyone weaker than them (specially the newbies).
80% of the hardcore clickers are just wasting their time. Even the most skilled of clickers (cept maybe Tigerworks). The bad ones are just discouraging the newbies and the decent clickers. The pros are just idling around the forums or trying to make the next uber-complex, but boring games like ED or TSE.
I've been in the Click Community since 1998, and the only time it looked this bad was when Click Cafe went down. At least back then I could seek refuge at #k&p. Good thing Click Island is around nowadays.
EDIT: Forgive the aggressive tone. I just get a bit mentally unstable once a month.
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Yeah, I meant comparatively boring. I've seen much more fun games made by average clickers in just a few weeks. TSE and ED were repetitive and a bit too tough. I don't mind tough games, but fighting the same bosses dozens of times is a real turn-off (damn that Hume). And all that waling around empty space gets boring as well.
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Eternal Daughter dazzled the eye, but was the most boring hunk of crap to play. I can't believe I gave it the review I did... damn my stupid noob days.
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
yeah, they both catch the eye but the gameplay is mediocre
"Say you're hanging from a huge cliff at the top of mt. everest and a guy comes along and says he'll save you, and proceeds to throw religious pamphlets at you while simultaniously giving a sermon." - Dustin G
I dont think the click community is dying.
the only Click sites i visit frequently is Acoders and here .
only acoders because they have the best forum EVER , but #k&p seems alright, i havent been visiting it much lately though.
I didnt think ED was boring at all, really hard but . on the other hand i played TSE for like half an hour and couldnt play it anymore, godammnit i hate RPG's and there stupid repetiveness.
Not many clickers are very serious about game development. That's probably why there's a lot of crap.It's easy to use click products, and thus, it becomes extremely easy for the inexperienced ones to post crappy games.
For the past few years, every month or two someone declares the Klik community dead/dying.
You get used to it I suppose... we're still here, after countless proclamations of the community's death.
Thing is, places like the Clickteam Forums, game company sites like mine, etc. etc. will always keep going and still be going. The Daily Click is still running, and IMO, successfully.
I should hope so too, I want fruitcake, not nutcake >=(
I don't think the Click community is dying... well, no more than the rest of the world, anyway. Gone are the days when 12-year-olds were vaguely mature, and 6-year-olds would be offended if someone swore instead of offending others.
The world is cyclic. It's just a phase, in a year we'll wish there was another Fire to make us all laugh.
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"in a year we'll wish there was another Fire to make us all laugh."
i hope not chris
i wouldn't say the community is dying... changing maybe, but not dying. as clickteam software becomes more popular and gets a larger user base, so too will DC and other sites. and as DC is popular with newbies we well get more and more of them, so you may see an increase in "newbish" behaviour, but it's all proportional: i'm sure we'll get more sensible members as well, but just more newbies than them.
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
Well, I suppose in a sense the community is dying, if you consider dying to mean "changing". Clicking is only going to keep getting more popular especially if MMF 2 does as well as Clickteam hopes it will (they are trying to get MMF 2 into stores.). It is certainly not dying in the literal sense of the word.
Also, the quality of the game is actually going up. Yes most games are still bad, but some of the ones released in the last few years have been VERY good. While many people may say ED is "overrated" I see no justification for such a statement. You kind of know that a game is special when it gets a 10/10 at Gamehippo (Gamehippo is the biggest freeware game reviews site on the internet) AND it gets featured on the frontpage of Gamehippo AND one of the editors said its one of his top ten freeware games of all time.
The Spirit Engine is another great game, although I can see why some people might not like it. It is extremely hardcore, but if you actually play through the whole thing you will see that it has a very in depth combat system and a pretty decent storyline to boot. Still if its not your cup of tea I can see why. It's kind of hard to deny however, that the Spirit Engine is the best click RPG of all time by far, and is easily in the top ten best click games of all time.
Really though, in the past, no games came from the click community that were of the caliber of ED or TSE. I am not even mentioning some other great games such as Lost Valley. Maybe the amount of "idiots" has increased but the quality of the games has certainly gone up.
99 percent chance that the above post is 100 percent correct.
Guys, I've been around this place a while, and believe me it aint dying. It was always this crap. Imagine an old guy in a hospital bed for 10 years, or a zombie continuing to roam the earth for no apparant reason. THAT'S what this community is like. I'm only here because I'm too lazy to find anywhere else to be, and I create a game once in a while, and the only criteria for TDC is that the file is openable, as opposed to other sites with much higher standards.
Copy this to your hard drive. It will be worth alot when I'm famous.
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Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
Hmmmm I seriously just think it's a forum thing more than anything...particularly this one.
Nothing wrong with the worldwide Klik community. Seriously think about how much it has advanced over the past couple of years with all of the new extensions and what not for MMF. I mean, there is great potential for great creations, and people should not be ignoring it.
I think if anything, the internet and community itself is tainting the ability of Klikers. I say thing because I think my mind and creative ability was best had when I had never gone near the internet... or women, or pot, or alcohol, but as they're to blame
It's kinda discouraging the people I reckon when they read "YOU GAME SUCKS MONKEY BALLS" from forum people over the other side of the globe rather than what I was use to, ie mates saying "Oh man do have that game we playing the other day on your computer that you made. I have the best idea for it..."
I think on that note I should mention that some of the best motivation you can get to work on your game, or feel proud of it is from the broader community, ie, friends and family.
I don't think people should listen to the fuckwits who have nothing better to do than slag your game, or you personally, without giving serious constructive critism. And this is one reason why the community may feel like it's breaking down...and that's because of people who just mouth off at what ever they want.
Looking back on the past 10 years of my Klikin career I realise I enjoy the old days. The old days when me and a couple of mates made games with KNP together. The old days when the internet was something of a mystery. The old days where i'd actually make a game that I could play 4 player with my mates and it'd be great fun. I liked it when 256 colours, default platform movement, library graphics and spelling errors were all you needed to make a game that was actually playable and enjoyable.
The thing is people over look these games. It's the little things. I pulled out some of my old KNP and TGF games from 7 or 8 years ago. I end up playing one of them for 3 hours without even realising it. Sure, the game would get fucked over here by critics, but I enjoyed it. And I think if people realised that Kliking is a hobby where the most important person to satisfy is yourself, then I think maybe then we'll see less people being scared away by harsh critisism.
That's what I think anyway...
MUGGUS
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Dines: If you think most of the retards and idiots flock here, work as a nurse in a hospital.
A pregnant teenager came in because after she ate her share
of salad, a grasshopper jumped in and she thought it might
hurt the baby. Her insurance had to pay $1000 to send the
ambulence to bring her to the hospital to get told it wasn't
something that could hurt anyone.
Muggus: I remember when little TGF platform movement non-scrolling games that
I made myself were so much fun because I made them.
I made this game with a stupid plot and simple gameplay where all you have to
do is shoot bunnies. This has been my most successful game yet. #5 or #6
I just might have to release to the community when they are done.
PS: They are the goriest games. Mindless Slaughter is their name.
PPS: Pop by the Island Muggus! ww.clickisland.com
Muz: The Click Community is not dying. Only TDC is dying. I remember when TDC was
much younger and there were many fewer idiots running loose and SC was very active.
Those were the good old days. Still, other sites can save the community, and even
TDC can hold on a little while longer.
Ashman: You never fail to amuse me. You go a little over the top with the sexual thing:
Lets see, it was something like this:
"I love it when I'm recieving that sweet oral pleasure, but I hate it when I look down
and realize its Jon Smeby."
Otherwise, when you aren't posting "I like it on all fours" on the front page, you may
be the funniest member of the click community. Still, you wouldn't be Ashman without
the sick sexual remarks you make.
Tigs: Very true. Where do people get the idea the click community is dying?
-Above post is ancient and probably irrelevant-
An old account of mine, recently cleared out. It's a blast to the past, the age was marked as 14 when I found it. If you know where to look, you can track me. Au revoir.
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. on the other hand i played TSE for like half an hour and couldnt play it anymore, godammnit i hate RPG's and there stupid repetiveness.
