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18th July, 2006 at 09:40:50 -

OMG! I GOT IT A WEEK AGOOO!
It's that thing Microsoft has been hyping up for the past few years. And you know what?
...

It sucks. It sucks with a fucking vengeance. It's like they intentionally made it slow and awful. First off, you need a DVD player to install it. You know why they did this? They did this because they're assholes, and they want you to spend lots of money.
So I bought a DVD player. It took a couple hours to install, and I was all happy. Then I started it up.

First, the design is completely (and shamelessly) ripped from the Linux system. Even the Internet explorer looks like Linux. Second, it's so fucking slow, even though most of the programs aren't (like the main Windows Menu pops up in a jiffy, but when you right click on the desktop you have to move the mouse around to see the options).
Third- Anything not by Microsoft comes up with some sort of error. Audacity, my favourite sound-program, constantly locks up. Same with Real Player...but if I close out the error message, it runs normally. They want you to install Windows Media player, but I refuse because it sucks ass.

When there's an error (which happens quite often), it comes up with a message 'Windows is checking the problem'; I thought 'Oooo! Neat'! But you know what? IT TAKES FIVE FUCKING HOURS TO CHECK WHY SOMETHING WON'T WORK. It locks up!
Internet takes forever to load on High-Speed.

I could go on, but it's a waste of time. Save your money, don't buy Vista.



 
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18th July, 2006 at 09:44:14 -

Who the hell was going to buy it eh? I'm too lazy to change OS anyway. Win2k is the best MS has been able to come up with so far, and I probably won't change until either the next thing after Vista is released or there's some pressing need.

 
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18th July, 2006 at 09:46:25 -

I was retarded enough to buy it.

 
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18th July, 2006 at 11:13:49 -

Lol, u bought a dvd drive just to install vista
"Even the Internet explorer looks like Linux" ~ A browser that looks like an OS?

The only thing I have to tell you is:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 
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18th July, 2006 at 12:16:54 -

lol.

 
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18th July, 2006 at 13:21:27 -

Your computer must suck... Windows Vista runs beautifully for me. In addition, they don't require a DVD drive as a fraud as you so put it... DVD players are OLD news, so anyone who doesn't even have one by now, is already one-step to being very far behind. Especially if you play games, which is one of the things Windows Vista was optimized to do (and does VERY well, tested it myself). In addition to that, Windows Media Player, Internet Explorer 7, and Windows Defender are all automatically installed with Windows Vista, so any confirmation as to it asking you to install it, doesn't make sense.
Another thing that makes very little sense is the question... why the hell would someone say Windows Media Player 10 sucks, let alone 11. In my eyes, that is nothing but trying to indirectly say you hate Microsoft, and are boycotting programs they make in process. In short, the ONLY mistake Windows Media player 10 or above makes, is the fact that it was made by Microsoft. Performance sucks? If it sucks so much, then why do I get 0-1% of my processes used up when I'm using it? Quality sucks? Oh, why... because it doesn't fade in/out when you stop/start music? Bullshit, Windows Media Player sounds just as good as any other media player would. The fact that other media players pack up with pointless EAX effects to make it sound better is nothing but a waste, and no reason why it should be considered better. Few Codecs? Bull... it just doesn't come installed with a shit load of codecs that you don’t need, on install. It's called GOOGLE and download!
Internet Explorer 7 is much better then Internet Explorer 6, however I still prefer FireFox over them both. In the end however, the internet is still lightning fast on Vista, as it is on WindowsXP, so that little "fact" is but a problem with your computer.

In the end, the most people can do is save their time by ignoring all these flame posts by anti-Microsoft people. Vista will run perfectly on any half-decent computer, but the key words here are HALF-DECENT. Microsoft isn't going to be idiots about the Vista and try to make sure it works on piece of SHIT computers owned by people who lazy to upgrade! Get a new computer, especially Vista compatible, and you will not be disappointed. My computer runs Vista great, and with that said, with the fact that my PC isn't even top of the line; I don't see any reason for anyone to complain.

 
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18th July, 2006 at 13:40:00 -

The man has a point. They probably are using some things from Linux, Linux is pretty. Hmm, I'm not going to play every FPS now because they used things from Doom. Man I'm just going to play Doom now, screw Call of Duty 2 and Battlefield 2. Nope, I'll pull out my SNES and Doom it up all night.

 
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18th July, 2006 at 14:07:51 -

I have got to agree with Brandon on this one. The reason Vista runs crap on your PC must be because either your PC is crap/old, or because something on your computer is faulty (or there are other things taking tons of memory). The fact is you should check the required specifications before purchasing any software - including an OS.

I have a PC which I bought a year ago, on which I installed the Vista BETA - runs perfectly, and I receive no errors at all when running programs such as Audacity and even MMF2. The only problems I have are some display issues and just minor bugs (but it is a BETA).

And so what if it looks like linux? (although it doesn't really remind me of linux anyway)

I think the reason that Microsoft have done what they have done with Vista is because computers are moving on - most computers come with DVD players now, and also have good enough graphics cards to run vista. So yeh it's pretty much your own fault for buying it - it's not like Microsoft forced you into buying it afterall

I suggest if anyone else wants Vista, then they should run the program from www.microsoft.com which will specifically tell you how well your computer will run vista.

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18th July, 2006 at 17:07:06 -

My computer is far from faulty/crap/old. It's brand fucking new.

I'm going to stick with XP. It was perfect as it was.

Do I hate Microsoft? Yes.

*high pitched squeely-mock* "Oooooh! WHY DID U BY IT THEN?!" To try it out. It's trash. It's not much of an upgrade. They changed the outlook; the interface has changed a bit to help stupid people figure out how to use the most basic functions (like changing the desktop background).

 
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18th July, 2006 at 17:14:27 -

And Brandon- do you really think I waste all of my money upgrading everytime some new piece of shit comes out? You must have a lot of money; I use my money on important things. It's great to know that people live off their computers; man, I've lost all faith in humanity.

For the record: my computer is only a year old.

 
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18th July, 2006 at 17:30:52 -

What spec is your computer? It's obvious that it's a problem with your computer - as it works fine on my old-ish computer, and seems to work fine on Brandon's too.

Probably just your graphics card that is the problem.

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19th July, 2006 at 08:59:41 -

Um, shouldn't good OSes be able to run fast on any computer from 2000> anyway?

 
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19th July, 2006 at 11:11:51 -

The DVD player is broked. It was from my old computer, and I was cheap, so I just ripped it out and put it in. Yes, I'm a cheap-ass.

 
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19th July, 2006 at 11:27:25 -

You do honestly reliese that Windows Vista has been in a free Beta though, right Lazarus? Your complaining that you spent allot of money on Vista, and here you didn't actually go and BUY a DVD drive, you recyled one (which I'm all for, don't get me wrong) and you downloaded a free copy of Vista... so in the end. You didn't even gamble anything but your time, you shouldn't be this pissed! Especially knowing that its only a beta!

 
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19th July, 2006 at 11:32:15 -

No, I had to buy a new DVD player, hence I spent lots o' money. Which is one of the many reasons I'm pissed.

It's a beta, yes; I took that into consideration. I'm ticked off about the hype. It's really no better than XP or 2000. They just re-did the interface.



 
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19th July, 2006 at 12:08:25 -

What did you expect?

 
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19th July, 2006 at 12:26:26 -

It IS Microsoft...

However, the large difference is the idea the Windows Vista is more aimed for running games smoother, something WindowsXP had a very hard time doing, compairing it to Windows 2000. This is where the biggest improvement for Vista is, and I've confirmed that it is a very large difference. I've noticed a nice frame rate jump in some of the more powerful games like Age of Empires 3.

 
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19th July, 2006 at 15:20:29 -

Hah, dumbness strikes!

Come on, hah, be happy you bought a DVD drive! You actually should've had a DVD drive for about 5 years now but you know what they say, better to be late then never! By the way, DVD drives are cheap. So stop whining

And like, what? You say you bought Vista, but you just downloaded the beta! The beta!@#$! You say you took that in consideration, but still you wrote a review in which you say the OS sucks. So, in the end, you didn't take it in consideration at all. Tsk tsk.

You did do a dual boot, right? I mean, it would just be dumb to install a beta OS as a main OS without having a backup OS. If you want to mess with beta OSes you just have to use dual booting.

I have some extra comments about your review...

"First off, you need a DVD player to install it. You know why they did this? They did this because they're assholes, and they want you to spend lots of money."
They did that because that's the standard today. Have you possibly been living under a rock? Most games come out on DVDs now.

"First, the design is completely (and shamelessly) ripped from the Linux system"
The design has been like that since Win95, just more bloated now. Linux is minimalistic, and NOTHING like Vista. I think you don't mean Linux, but you mean Mac. Get your sources right.

"Second, it's so fucking slow, even though most of the programs aren't (like the main Windows Menu pops up in a jiffy, but when you right click on the desktop you have to move the mouse around to see the options)."

The speed is not an OS problem. OSes aren't built to run at a certain speed. Your system is the problem here, and keep in mind that it's a BETA and that you didn't buy this Vista copy at all.
Also, the Windows Start Menu is NOT a program! The Right Click menu is NOT a program! It's part of the Windows Shell, which is one program! Come on, basic knowledge.

 

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19th July, 2006 at 18:55:50 -

What I find fantastic about Vista is that most of the ideas in it have been used by Apple for at least the last five years ("gadgets" on the desktop being the most criminal) - unfortunately, this adds fuel to the Mac fans' argument against it.

why the hell would someone say Windows Media Player 10 sucks, let alone 11

Because it does. It's one of the most appalling examples of unnecessary bloatware since RealPlayer - all I need from a media player is something that will actually play audio/video, not all the extras that come with it (and that's why I use Windows Media Classic).

 
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19th July, 2006 at 21:31:25 -

I've never had any problems with WMP10/11 and as far as bloatware? I don't know what Windows Media Player you're installing, but it's not the official one, because when I install WMP10/11, all I get is WMP. I don't get anything else, especially if I don't check it. I will admit, they included URGE in WMP11, but #1, I highly doubt that could be considered bloatware, and #2, you can decide not to install it by simply unchecking it in the installer, rather then clicking Next, Next, Next, hoping that the installer will go by quickly.

 
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20th July, 2006 at 00:13:10 -

What I find fantastic about Vista is that most of the ideas in it have been used by Apple for at least the last five years ("gadgets" on the desktop being the most criminal) - unfortunately, this adds fuel to the Mac fans' argument against it.
Honestly that doesn't mean shit. Advances in GUI philosophy should be universal, and regardless of who does something "first", most of the time it's been done first in a paper by a third-party researcher somewhere. If Mac fans think that means anything, it only goes to show how strong Apple's reality distortion fields are.

(As for Gadgets, I seem to remember getting a gay little app on a demo disk that did exactly the same thing back in the days of windows 98.)

 
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20th July, 2006 at 12:06:00 -

Ironic, isn't it Phizzy.

Gadgets are Widgets for Windows basicly. (If that was what you were refering to.)

 
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20th July, 2006 at 14:12:01 -

I suppose that's true - if something works (and works well), then there's no reason that it shouldn't be in all operating systems possible. Being different isn't always good.

 
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20th July, 2006 at 17:22:27 -

I. uh, never had the need for anything above XP.

The thing is..er.. that I only play HL2 from time to time when it comes to high def games.

And every computer in my household got a DVD player, and two DVD burners, I just don't like the prices of graphics cards nowadays, other than the fact that they fall in price quickly.
For playing different media, VLC and Winamp 2 has often near to never failed me.

I don't like shiny polish in a GUI. i don't really care if its grey and bland. If I want it to look good, It would be an alternative rather than the default setting.

All in all: Vista looks nice. But that is all it does, that XP doesn't for me.

 
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20th July, 2006 at 21:59:40 -

i would love it if vista came on 32,000 floppy disks. For compatibility sake. You may want to put it on some dirty old steam powered rig.

Although not everyone has those anymore, my new laptop has a card reader instead!

 
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21st July, 2006 at 03:40:31 -

I agree, however... if anything was better then 32,000 floppy disks, it would be sitting there switching floppy disks every 11 seconds for 45 minutes.

 
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21st July, 2006 at 12:06:05 -

Floppy discs? are you insane? What about my tricked out C64?

You should get Vista on tapes.

Edit: OR you should be able to get the whole source and guidelines for the graphics printed out. in braille. Because you don't always got acess to a floppy/tape drive and might be blind.

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22nd July, 2006 at 09:56:32 -

"What about my tricked out C64?"

What about 5 inch floppies?

 
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