Right well, I have to say that it is kinda sad to see what lots of people think about Islam. If you think about it logically, youll understand that you cannot generalize on the whole religion based on the actions of a few. And sadly, thats what most people have been doing. What happened in Sudan, I think was over reaction. If the woman meant no insult to Islam's Prophet then I think, she should not have been punished at all. What Im trying to say is that every religion has its bad seeds. Murderers, war mongers, rapists and what not. And that you cannot judge a religion by its people, seeing that many dont follow it correctly. I mean, how many of us follow our respective religions to the word?
What I assume is that the people who rallied outside the prison in favor of killing that woman were illiterate; in religion or otherwise. Not surprisingly, the literacy rate isnt very high in muslim countries and ironically enough, Islam encourages education.
As for the terrorist groups such as Al Qaeda and other factions, I agree that they use Islam as a lame excuse for terrorism. Islam means peace and it says in the Koran to respect all other religions as well. I do not think that you'll ever find a muslim insulting Jesus or Moses. I think its very juvenile that some of you are using 'Mohammad' as an avatar for pigs or something even more silly.
I beleive someone said that if a woman is raped by someone, she receives 60 lashes by Shariah law. Not true. She has no punishment at all. I looked it up. It would be stupid if Islam said that, considering as she was the victim in the first place. My suggestion to everyone would be to study the religion first and then, if you think its crap or if muslims are meatballs, by all means go ahead and post about it. Cause, in my opinion, its very illogical to state that some religion is for 'faggots' or something if you dont even know what it is. Heh, well, thats wht i think anyway.
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Originally Posted by \/\/olf Right well, I have to say that it is kinda sad to see what lots of people think about Islam. If you think about it logically, youll understand that you cannot generalize on the whole religion based on the actions of a few. And sadly, thats what most people have been doing.
Originally Posted by \/\/olf I beleive someone said that if a woman is raped by someone, she receives 60 lashes by Shariah law. Not true. She has no punishment at all.
Well, if the man is convicted that is. If he's not, then it's lashtime for bearing false witness. Now, for the man to be convicted the woman needs four witnesses supporting her story. Otherwise, LASHTIME.
So if you're raping in Muslim-land, make sure there are no more than three witnesses!
Well, shouldn't that make Muslim-land the ideal vacation spot for rapists? Though, imagine if you did get convicted there! They cut off your hand for stealing, just imagine what they'd cut off for raping
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Originally Posted by \/\/olf I beleive someone said that if a woman is raped by someone, she receives 60 lashes by Shariah law. Not true. She has no punishment at all.
Well, if the man is convicted that is. If he's not, then it's lashtime for bearing false witness. Now, for the man to be convicted the woman needs four witnesses supporting her story. Otherwise, LASHTIME.
So if you're raping in Muslim-land, make sure there are no more than three witnesses!
Well, shouldn't that make Muslim-land the ideal vacation spot for rapists? Though, imagine if you did get convicted there! They cut off your hand for stealing, just imagine what they'd cut off for raping
I beleive someone said that if a woman is raped by someone, she receives 60 lashes by Shariah law. Not true. She has no punishment at all. I looked it up. It would be stupid if Islam said that, considering as she was the victim in the first place. My suggestion to everyone would be to study the religion first and then, if you think its crap or if muslims are meatballs, by all means go ahead and post about it. Cause, in my opinion, its very illogical to state that some religion is for 'faggots' or something if you dont even know what it is. Heh, well, thats wht i think anyway.
oh, and
"Under Saudi Arabia’s strict interpretation of Islamic Sharia law, women are not allowed in public in the company of men other than relatives."
Like I mentioned before, its not in the religion. The govt were at fault here and I think it was stupid to punish the woman. I retain my opinion still.
Originally Posted by Santareeke Originally Posted by \/\/olf I beleive someone said that if a woman is raped by someone, she receives 60 lashes by Shariah law. Not true. She has no punishment at all.
Well, if the man is convicted that is. If he's not, then it's lashtime for bearing false witness. Now, for the man to be convicted the woman needs four witnesses supporting her story. Otherwise, LASHTIME.
So if you're raping in Muslim-land, make sure there are no more than three witnesses!
Well, shouldn't that make Muslim-land the ideal vacation spot for rapists? Though, imagine if you did get convicted there! They cut off your hand for stealing, just imagine what they'd cut off for raping
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Hahaha. Well, I've never heard of them doing such a thing tho. Altho, my friend once showed me a video of it despite me not wanting to see it. I donno where the video took place or where he got it but...it was chopped. Poor guy... Anyway, I still retain my opinion.
Like \/\/olf said, you cannot base your judgement of an entire religion and culture on the beliefs and actions of extremists. Religious extremists have ALWAYS existed. Governments are COMPLETELY fucked up in SO MANY countries. Generalizing and saying things like "their religion is oppressive" is wrong. THIS IS WHAT RELIGION IS.
Christian extremists exist and have existed in quantity also. I don't even want to go into the shit caused by christianity. But when I meet someone who is christian I don't hold any kind of judgement, especially because such a large percentage of the world is some form of christianity. Extremists do not represent a group. They represent a certain view of a group.
I live in the US. A huge portion of this country is reformed/secular. In countries like Saudi Arabia, because there is no seperation between religion and gov't, religion hasn't died down like it has here. People are strict/orthodox, and actually observe Islam. However, extremists earn themselves names in global news, and people judge their whole religion because of it. That's just not right. Religion has always been like this; people are intolerant.
James: "Turn the other cheek"... The Bible, the Torah, and the Qur'an all say things like this. In fact, other than small rituals and the stories presented in these scriptures, they basically present the same teachings and morals. These religions are closely related. If Judaism and Christianity are acceptable, then so is Islam.
Rape gets pretty much ignored by the justice system in EVERY country, not just islamic ones. I think the figure was like 61% of all rapes go unreported, of the remaining 41%, 54% of those get dismissed or aquitted from court, and of the 46% of cases that get convicted, 21% are never sentenced, and 24% just get detention in local jail as if it were a misdemeanor.
If you're not great at math, that means only ~10% of rapes actually get someone put into prison.
oh, and despite there being about 54% that get aquitted or dismissed, the false reporting of rape is only 2.5% of all cases.
Oh and across the pond in the kings country, its 6% get convictions and 20% get reported.
But yeah, those dirty muslims rape women left and right and get away with it! (*rolls eyes*)
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