The fact is and this will happen with gb to admit it or not, -and thumbs up for your effords btw we need more click sites around here-
Once the userbase grows so we will the pain of dealing with so many different people, opinions and whatnot, it is hard keeping everything in check, flamewars will happen -even if you say they will not- Posts will be deleted -even if you say no they will not- it is really easy to fight the evil tdc when you are just starting up. The real trick comes keeping the site going once the level of users increases. Things will hapen hayo, You will not see this in weeks, months but in years.
So I know it is easy to freak out at us and make promises of things to be better.
Yo say: The only thing that keeps TDC going is the massive amount of members it has and the cheer factor.
We say the thing that keeps tdc going is the daily updates and the innovative new features that we will bring to the site (others may clone them but we will bring them to the table) For now and for always
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Let's not turn this into a fight. Lol, more people should visit GameBuilder, it has more admins than active users at any hour Rick(oth)y's right, the users will ultimately win from any competition. The community's badly needs some competition. It's just too stagnant as it is.
Hayo, democracy only works with a certain level of intellect. If you can have a group where 100% of users are mature and responsible, democracy is certainly the best way. TDC can be a bit totalitarian, but it works. I've seen admins elected democratically and elected simply by the choice of one person and IMHO, it actually works much better when Rikus or Mike picks them alone. If you looked at some of the previous GOTWs, you'd also see how messed up democracy can get.
You can't change TDC, but you can certainly make an alternative to it. And I'd welcome that.
Disclaimer: Any sarcasm in my posts will not be mentioned as that would ruin the purpose. It is assumed that the reader is intelligent enough to tell the difference between what is sarcasm and what is not.
The thing I get really sick of is the stuck up attitude displayed here. You just seem to run this site to get a lot of visitors, use anything that will bring in more visitors. I am really glad I didn't do that pointless BnH video you asked me to make for the KlikCast. I would feel abused now.
TDC brings the new things to the table? Like the Klik Museum maybe? Game of the month trophy? TDC invented all the features in the click community? TDC invented the clicks?
Flame wars will happen? Not at some of the places I've been an admin of, and I didn't have to delete a single post. Apart from that, I think you need a good flame war every now and then. Half the flame wars I see here are "WTF who deleted my post?!" and "what did you ban him for?" I know retarded people come to the site, I know they can be a problem. It is okay to warn them or delete them. But I see too many sane people have their posts deleted, which will piss people off, which causes a stir, which will bring more people to TDC because we all like trouble. I would act much nicer if I didn't get pissed off by fascist site handling. Adam would act nicer. Heck, Phizzy would still be around(as Phizzy, not one of his fake accounts).
And I am just starting up? I have been Click products since 1996 and have been involved in click community sites since 2000. I've visited this site since launch, I built 3 sites up with nice people over the years, saw then get torn down and then I just focussed on my own games. I know what I am doing. I don't hate TDC, I don't hate any member on this site, I am not freaking out or screaming, I started out giving feedback and pointed things out but found out you are so full of your website that you are immune to any form of criticism. You consider it an attack and all you do is "no TDC will never die WHOOO!"
With democracy I don't mean the political, modern-western idea of democracy. Just look up what democracy was when it was invented. It means the power should not be in the hands of a few people. They will do things on their own that don't make sense and they will piss off a bunch of people. You don't have to use the dumb 80% to have a democracy.
umm i was not talking about you Hayo I was talking about gb itself. This is nothing personal and I am not being the one upset here.
Actually I was just invited by ricky to join the chat and that is totally cool, however right before I did (i had to get my ct forum password for it to work) I saw a pm by Adam on the clickteam forums.
Short to say, after being called some chilish names and now that I have to remove the klik-cast logo he made from the tdc in its entire, i dont think I should enter the chat since the adams-fan club's mind is made up how tdc is just the dark side anyway. Only seeing one side of the coin is just that only seeing that one side.
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I visit community sites were there aren't flamewars. But thats down to the members rather than the admins anyway. Admins can only react to them, not prevent them.
You know I do get the feeling sometimes that when someone makes an honest criticism of TDC the admins take it far too personally. But you know, it's supposed to be a community site and all It would be nice if we could do so without ending up frustrated and getting the feeling we've upset someone.
Also It doesn't help when members jump into the thread screaming 'DONT BOTHER TRYING BECAUSE IT WILL TURN INTO A FLAMEWAR. THE ADMINS' DECISION IS FINAL' because... you know thats stupid. It's another cause for frustration because it gets you nowhere.