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xXBlazefirelpXx
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30th December, 2010 at 20:16:05 -
Okay, so. I've tried many methods for this but non of them have ever worked good enough to be a usable camera. I'm trying to make a Genesis styled camera. Where it has the boundaries on 320 x 240 window like in Sonic 3 for example.
I've tried everything else I can think of but, I really am at a loss. Does anyone have any methods they think will work?
Ps: This camera is actually going to be like a Sonic Advance 3 camera since my real engine screen is 240x160 pixels.
Thanks in advance.
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monkeytherat
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30th December, 2010 at 20:22:00 -
What do you mean by "camera"?
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Jon Lambert
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30th December, 2010 at 20:25:18 -
Surely you don't mean that you want the window to be 240x160 so I'm thinking you mean the way that the camera scrolls slightly ahead of you when you move fast. To do that, you would set the window frame to scroll at an X position equal to the x position of the character plus or minus some modification of their speed. If for example their greatest speed is 100 and you want it to scroll 50 pixels ahead when you're moving at that speed, you would set it to scroll at X("Sonic")+(Speed/2). If your speed can't have a negative value (when I store speed I store it as a positive value for right and negative for left) then you'll have to do two separate events, one for facing left and one for facing right, or however you differentiate between moving left and moving right.
Otherwise you'll have to be a bit clearer in what you're asking.
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xXBlazefirelpXx
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30th December, 2010 at 20:38:45 -
lol. I can make a camera and all that fine. I mean, in a sonic camera. there is boundaries. Like an invisable box that lets the camera move freely before it starts moving.
Like in this video, you can clearly see how the Y axis reacts to the boundary box.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdZ1oiZadCg
And the same applys to the X axis.
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monkeytherat
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30th December, 2010 at 20:52:07 -
What part of the video? I don't wanna watch a 5 minute sonic tutorial right now...
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xXBlazefirelpXx
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30th December, 2010 at 20:57:35 -
Look about 0:40 seconds
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monkeytherat
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30th December, 2010 at 20:59:39 -
I didn't see anything special...
Unless you mean the pause while the text appears
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xXBlazefirelpXx
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30th December, 2010 at 21:00:59 -
Look at the camera dude.......
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monkeytherat
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30th December, 2010 at 21:06:18 -
Oh... the way the camera centers on the text for a second?
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xXBlazefirelpXx
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30th December, 2010 at 23:21:11 -
Forget about the text. The text has nothing to do with it. Look at the exact moment I said. 0:40. Look how Sonic jumps up but for a breif moment the camera doesn't move until sonic goes a bit further up, then it starts scrolling with sonic. then as he goes down it stays still once again untill he reaches a point where it continues scrolling again.
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GamesterXIII
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1st January, 2011 at 04:37:44 -
Hey, Blaze. Perhaps try explaining it one more time.
I think I understand what you're trying to say. Basically the camera seems to make the same movements as sonic, but lags behind him (similar to how tails does in Sonic 2.)
Correct me if I'm wrong. There are a bunch of tgf/mmf files showing how to make tails follow sonic, perhaps you could search for one and adapt that into a camera?
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Jon Lambert
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1st January, 2011 at 05:55:39 -
What I believe Blaze is saying is that there is a bounding box that Sonic has to enter before the camera begins to scroll vertically.
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GamesterXIII
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1st January, 2011 at 07:35:29 -
Originally Posted by Jon Lambert
What I believe Blaze is saying is that there is a bounding box that Sonic has to enter before the camera begins to scroll vertically.
Yeah, but I'm not seeing it 
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xXBlazefirelpXx
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1st January, 2011 at 14:58:23 -
Jon. You are absolutely right. Except there is also one in the X axis. Just smaller width for the camera to stop.
I've actually tried something I thought up while thinking about my static engine and it's collisions I did for it.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5505419/MMF2360Base.mfa
I managed to come up with this. But As you can see. It's not very efficient and isn't completely secure in terms of sticking to pixel perfect positions so it goes do that laggy position set thing that mmf2 does when you set an object to another when the object is moving.
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Mark McCauley
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5th January, 2011 at 11:36:15 -
u can create an activeobject(named camera object) thats always invisible and make the window centre scrolled to this object
camera flag is off set position of activeobjectcamera to x,y of character
event where text appears- start movement1 of camera object(which youve preset as a path movement to go up and down )
always centre scrolling window to camera object,0,0
you could also set the (activeobjectcamera's x position) to (x position of character + speed of character) while right is pressed or x position of character - speed of character) while left is pressed
which will increase your view ahead depending on how fast u go
a little tweak using variable values inc while right dec while left so that u get a smoother return
do u get me?
hope this helps
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http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/forum/messages.cfm?threadid=44227736-C46F-AC56-02EBA05285818C14
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xXBlazefirelpXx
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5th January, 2011 at 19:13:08 -
I already know how to do stuff like that and with a better method for it. What I don't know how to do properly is the damn boundary box, look in the video, notice how it moves and sometimes doens't Everyone forget about the freakin text, it means nothing to me. Read Jon Lambert's post.
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GamesterXIII
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5th January, 2011 at 19:54:51 -
iz sum1 getin mad? 
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xXBlazefirelpXx
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5th January, 2011 at 20:57:20 -
For nobody being able to grasp something not even remotely complex, yes >_>. Has anyone here ever actually played the SonicAdvance series ?
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GamesterXIII
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6th January, 2011 at 14:01:05 -
I have.
They're pretty garbage and suffer greatly from terrible level design.
Anyways, while what you are trying to do is relatively simple, it is very subtle and hard to see especially in a video that runs at 24fps or less.
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xXBlazefirelpXx
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6th January, 2011 at 16:39:29 -
http://www.livestream.com/blazefirelp/video?clipId=pla_a808d45d-f13a-4a46-b09b-073830568f1c&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb
This should help show how it works in the advance series.
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GamesterXIII
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6th January, 2011 at 16:46:49 -
In that video it works exactly how I said before ?_? The camera makes the same movements as sonic just shortly after he makes them. I see what you're saying about the boundary box, but it looks like you've finished?
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xXBlazefirelpXx
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7th January, 2011 at 21:16:33 -
No, it doesn't. It is nothing like AI. You obviously don't know how it works then.
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GamesterXIII
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7th January, 2011 at 22:48:46 -
You're pretty much an idiot.
I didn't say its exactly like the AI, but the camera DOES make the same movements as Sonic - they are just delayed like I said, and have a boundary like you said. If you can't fathom how those two (SAV camera and tails movement) are fairly similar or how you can adapt one into the other then someone needs to help you or you should quit using clickteam products all together. You don't deserve help, and I won't be surprised if nobody helps you next time you post anything.
PS: Nobody wants to play garbage SoNiC tHe HeDgEhOg: Advance Rush Adventure 7 fangames.
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Duncan
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8th January, 2011 at 21:47:58 -
What I usually do is always > centre display at object 
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