Okay, here's the theory, give everyone $5 click cash. Then when ever somebody wants someone else to create graphics, midi files, debugging, or anything else you can think of, you can pay them a couple of bucks for thier trouble. All transactions will be recorded by TDC with details such as who, when, and what for. Anyone suspected of creating multiple accounts for multiple cash will be fined double what they ripped off. Once you run out of money, you can't pay anyone for anything, until you earn some cash yourself.
This is a way of ensuring that TDC is a community that helps eachother out to a greater extent than usual.
If you want to go crazy with this idea, you could even have a classified section, with work wanted ads, help wanted ads, and photographs, lists and trophie icons next to the list of TDC's richest members clickcash wise.
Okay, can anyone see a flaw to my master plan?
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Hehe, no I was thinking more along the lines of members paying out of thier own $5 allowance to donations. Or better yet, what if donations were converted into cash, and a US dollar bought two TDC dollars. So TDC dollars would be like Auzzie dollars, or Canadian dollars.
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Ohh wow, this sounds like fun. Personally I can't wait to start trading my hard earned real money into cheap ass, useless fake money like some dumbass.
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
Let's rewind and do this the new Friendly Daily Click Boards way with Ashman's new post. =
"Oh wow, that sounds like fun. Personally, I think this isn't a very great idea, but it would fund the Daily Click a whole lot. But I don't think I would use it, so I would most likely stay poor."
There, see, no name calling, no calling out with evil jerk tones. =P
You call that backing me up Smeggy! You sicken me.
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
The problem is that click cash is kind of pointless because they don't have any real value to the person. If they don't need any of that why are the going to work for someone for click cash?
Well if the richest person is delivered small prizes, and has thier picture on the top of the click cash, with a little icon of a trophie, saying "He's the richest" or "She's the richest" if by some freak accident, a chick outshines all us desperate-for-status blokes.
The more we praise the rich, the more valuable the price of a dollar will be. And soon the price of a dollar will be so valuable, that it will be worth converting real cash, to get several hours service with level designing, music creating, or whatever you fancy.
Pete Nattress, the sad thing is, this isn't a true community. Look at Ashman for example. Infecting every decant post, filling it with gibberish, and desparately hoping to get all the users to talk about something besides the topic. People here arn't helpful by nature. We need a system that rewards the helpful, so that others will say, "I want my picture on the front of the click cash tab". I tell you what, if this idea falls through, I'll work my ass off, to earn everyones money. Think of it as a way of exploiting me. I'll work so hard that everyone will be buying click cash with real money.
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This? A DECENT POST?!?! Don't make me laugh, Chambers.
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
This is a good concept, just a bit of modifying it and it just might work, but I do have one question: how would a click dollar be worth anything to anybody?
It won't be worth diddly over squat. It's like trading something for nothing. Get the picture.
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
because the richest people get recognised for it. They may even get little prizes, if people start converting real cash. It would be worth something to me.
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So while we're all giving our money away to get... *stifles a laugh* Click Money... the poor homeless guy on the street outside is dying cos we didn't have any money left to let him get some food... he's gonne die now I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY CHAMBERS!!!
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
Spam... that's such a cheap watery imitation of ham.
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
Just ask the poor homeless guy that Jon Chambers is killing.
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
C'mon, I'm talking about submitting a couple of bucks. If you really put all of your money into helping others, how did you manage to get access to the net? Are you guys all in your public libraries? Anyway, no one has to put in real cash. Everyone starts with 5 of whatever currency you like.
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I find both good and bad sides about this idea Jon.
To take a good point. Such a reward system would show much better who contributes to the community (as opposed to the "participation rating" we got now). Members who help out in any way will be rewarded, great.
Bad point. Dont bring real money into this. Thats a very bad idea. Especially younger members would have trouble paying, also supporting paymethods world wide *could* be a problem. And it should NEVER cost you money to get help in a community site like this. REALLY REALLY bad idea.
Good point. A reward system like this forces members to help others in order to be able to get help themselves. Generally that would generate more help.
Bad point. Forcing someone to do something is in the long run more damaging than it helps. Is it not fair to help others to get help yourself? Absolutely, but if you are forced to do it, you either do a bad job, or you stay away (dont get help). The second prolem. Abuse. Such a system would most likely be abused. When is the money rewarded? When the job is done? There will always be people to abuse a system. They could claim you did a bad job and will not pay you. Who will decide a dispute? Admins? That means more work to them ... and they dont want more work ... Just look how members behave in the boards.
Good point. Money could be rewards in contests or the GOTW etc.
I have not yet made up my mind about if I support this or not ...
I am not dissing it for the purpose of dissing... I'm dissing it because it's a crappy idea, and I don't like it. Jon Chambers doesn't exactly suger coat his attitude toward me, so I will extend him the same curtesy. So shut your pie hole, Eviniscrotum!
Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
Actually I've read it over and I think it's a pretty good idea. It can be successful without having to spend any real cash.
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good post cybermaze... i think the conclusion that can be drawn is that this system would not be popular enough or worthwhile enough to the site to consider implementing it. whilst i disagree perhaps with cyber's wording - "forcing people" is perhaps to strong a way to put it - i really don't like how it could make people feel obliged to help others, almost against their will, and that more helpful people get recognised. which isn't really the point of this site, to be frank... people who are more SKILLED should get recognised. ashman may be a big hairy tit, but he does make some good games, and that is why he's more "famous". and a system like this could very easily become abused, as cyber says, and i don't want to spend my life solving disputes over imaginery money.
that's no reason, however, to bash jon for putting forward his ideas. it's a nice concept but i think we can safely say it's a flawed one.
LMAO!!! Pete I am gonna get a little badge made up -
"Skilled Hairy Tit"
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Show me the power child,
I'd like to say,
That I'm down on my knees today,
Gives me the butterflies,
Gives me away,
'Til I'm up on my feet again,
I'm feeling outshined.
Remember, although Ashman is very excessive
on the boards he has posted quite a few games
and deserves his fame as a click figure.
No offense, but I think that this site already
has plenty problems coming up and the money
thing would pull it under and shut it down,
although TDC would have more donations...
Not worth it.
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Yeah. Well. It appears that this topic's done, so I have another question "How the fuck do I get rid of this 'Free Porn Galleries' From my RIght click options?". I mean it just appeared one day, Must've been my sister....
Well they were until my friends found them, ridiculed me and then deleted them (Not my porn, That stuff's nasty). Man everyone knew the next day at school, I'm a changed man, until I hit eighteen in half a year! I'll be the scourge of the internet porn seas!
Uh, guys, I don't think Jon really meant that we should put real money into the idea. It's a good idea, but only if you freely use it and don't mug anyone.
Jon, you shoulda just described it as "giving your DC points to someone else". A lot easier to implement and understand .
Of course, there's that problem with the multiple accounts for cash thing. It's a good replacement for the DC point system though. It's useless as it is and still doesn't reward people who've been around for years.
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I think people who've been around for years don't need rewarding. The last thing this community needs is more people, "around". We need people to be doing helpful stuff. I reakon I'd be willing to donate a bit of cash to get prizes to the richest people. Just a little incentive to give click cash value. The idea of exchanging real cash for fake cash was just some concept for making people feel encouraged to donate to the site. I figure a donation is as good a contribution as any other, though if that's what's putting everyone off, then we can scrap it.
However, a good point was made, click cash will be once more thing for people to argue about. If I pay someone a dollar to design me a level, and the level turns out to be crap, do I still pay him? Though now that I think of it, we should allow people to be ripped off, because once you rip somone off, your reputation is shattered. So customer satisfaction is a must if you want to be the richest guy in DC. I reakon the richest guy in TDC should get a free coffee mug, or T-shirt, or cap, or mousemat, or something else cool with the phrase "richest guy in TDC".
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I kinda meant something like allowances. Everyone gets 5 TDC Cash Points a month . Donations are good though, but it has the same problems as capitalism. Some filthy rich kid (in real life) who lives in America, Britain or Japan (or somewhere else where the economy is booming) can just act like a total jerk and donate 10% of his allowance every month and end up with loads of DC cash and make fun of the weak.
That brings monetary benefit to TDC, at the cost of some politeness. But still, we can always ignore them .
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A) Show how much is donated and how much is earned.
B) Make sure there is a more obvious rating system present.
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Yeah, true. Okay, no donations. Everyone gets $5. No allowances. Then again, if every one has got like a million dollars, I could charge a hundred thousand dollars per midi file, and people would buy it. Well, I'm not an admin, so I really don't have much say in the matter. If something useful comes out of this, just put my name in the credits somewhere, and I'll be happy, unless I want to Alan Smitty it.
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You can't really do much with $5, now can you? Maybe you could earn some more from DC contests and GOTW awards. Well, Worth 1000 -- http://www.worth1000.com -- has a good credit system.
I still think the donations are a good idea, specially with Keatonian's suggestion A. Pretty soon the admins (well, ShadowCaster at least) will be swimming in evil cash.
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Yeah, I guess. Hey if everyone had a regular income, inflation would be a problem. What if everyone starts of with $500, and and gets a dollar a day. I actually think that we should't encourage people to just be here. I think people should be encouraged to do be helpful. I mean, this is a community not a game. Communities require help, games require time.
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Might I suggest personally mailing ShadowCaster, Rikus, and/or Clubsoft about this? It's a good idea and shouldn't hurt more than it helps. They did a user-based DC rating system back in the old days. It shouldn't be too hard to implement something like this.
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You could do something like the 'store points' hack for vbulletin. You get a store point for every post you make, and for every thread you make you get a store point when it reaches a certain amount of views/replies. Then you have +/- buttons on each post-giving someone a plus gives them a point. Giving a minus takes one away. Then there's the store with things like custom title, highlight name etc.
No, the last thing we need is to incourage posting. Reviewing must be encouraged, helping eachother must be encouraged, but posting is a privilage, not a contribution. Maybe code it forums, but other than that, it isn't a privilage.
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Yeah I can't wait to buy a daily click t-shirt and get the shit beaten out of me when ever I go out in public! A daily click teddy bear would make me cool too.
I dont have anything against the daily click, but have you ever sold anything in your shop?
Nah, no merchandise buying. It'll ruin everything.
I once wanted to buy one of those TDC T-shirts, but they were waaay too expensive. I'd take a blank T-shirt, print the TDC logo, and iron it on my shirt, but that would be copyright infringement .
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Daily click should have a competion to design a tshirt and you add the winners design to your shop, you might sell a few if some people can do some cool stuff.
If DC points were exchanged for real money, two bad things would happen.
1. The non-talented ones who post a bunch of crap would become rich.
2. TDC would go broke.
Why do we need money to help eachother out? We can always do that for free. Money is the world's 2nd curse. Please don't ask what the other curses are. I haven't made up the whole list yet.
"No, the last thing we need is to incourage posting. Reviewing must be encouraged, helping eachother must be encouraged, but posting is a privilage, not a contribution. Maybe code it forums, but other than that, it isn't a privilage."
Not necesarily(sp), the point is that because people can rate "-" that anyone spamming or posting crap gets -'d. then you can have a system where if someone gets -'d say, 10 times, they get banned for a week from posting.
What the fuck shit ass bitch dick twat sod wank crap kind of idea is this?
First off:
A) Nobody gives a SHIT about fake "Click Cash" (tm) otherwise know as "Jon Chambers is a Bloody Fag Bucks".
B) If you want graphics done, you do them yourself. Nobody gives a rats ass about "Click Cash(tm)" enough to make it an incentive to do work. The people of Daily Click can barely make their own graphics for their OWN games.
C) Nobody gives a crap about where the money goes because it's not fucking real.
D) Nobody gives a crap about people cheating the system because it's not fucking real.
E) Nobody will help anybody else because "Click Cash(tm)" is a stupidass idea and nobody gives a crap about earning "Click Cash(tm)" because it's not fucking real.
F) Nobody will visit the classified section because nobody needs work, especially for "Click Cash(tm)" because "Click Cash(tm)" has no value in society whatsoever and therefore, nobody cares about "Click Cash(tm)" because it's not fucking real.
G) Nobody wants to see photographs of other klikkers because other klikkers are ugly 12 year old pimple faced morons. Oh yeah, they're not fucking real either.
H) Nobody gives a crap about a fucking trophy because the trophy is a fucking 7 kilobyte animated GIF file that's not worth anything, so nobody cares about it because it's not fucking real.
I) Can anyone see anything RIGHT with this stupid idea?
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