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eyeangle



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10th March, 2004 at 06:34:18 -

Here you can bag the hell out of the program by saying what it can't do or you can praise it like your god and say what it can do.

I personally like the program because it is so simple to use and takes no script language what's so ever. Although script language programs like C++ do make the professional programs like windows etc.

But anyway feel free to have your say on the program.
Is MMF the best, or is it?

 
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Cazra

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10th March, 2004 at 06:46:20 -

Things it can't do:
-scroll through the frame editor quickly whil dragging an object
-wash the dishes
-right click in the picture editor to grab a color, you have to hold shift and click
-simply click a button in the objects window of the frame editor to look at a previous level's objects
-can't have more than 16 million colors(I can live with that)
-can't have more than 10000 objects per frame(That's good enough for me too.)

Things it can do:
-create paralax backgrounds
-create a working splitscreen
-easilly play midis over frames
-easy to draw celestial objects in the picture editor
-can have up to 10000( I doubt anyone would reach that limit.)
-better transitions
-use loads of extensions TGF can't.
-counters and text have similar properties to active objects in the event editor.


 
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Mr Coffee



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10th March, 2004 at 11:25:00 -

You don't ever need over 16 million colors. Even commercial games don't use over 16 million colors. The 10000 object limit is not a problem for most people, although if you want to do particle effects you actually need over 10000.

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10th March, 2004 at 12:23:01 -

"right click in the picture editor to grab a color, you have to hold shift and click"

I like the set up as it is it allows me to have 2 colours to hand easily.

 
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Tigerworks

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10th March, 2004 at 13:12:19 -

I don't think computers can actually display more than 16 million colours anyway?
And C++ is just as capable as making an unprofessional app as MMF is.

 
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Cazra

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10th March, 2004 at 17:02:48 -

Lol! I was just exaggerating when I said
"-can't have more than 16 million colors(I can live with that)
-can't have more than 10000 objects per frame(That's good enough for me too.) ".

Nobody would ever need more than 10000 objects or 16 million colors.

 
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ChrisB

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10th March, 2004 at 17:11:03 -

I'm sure they might want more than 10000 objects, but honestly - who can tell the difference between....

black (1,1,1)


and


black (0,0,0)?

 
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DarkFish



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10th March, 2004 at 17:44:02 -

The human eye can only see up to 32-Bit colours.

 
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ChrisB

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10th March, 2004 at 18:42:10 -

You're wrong, it's actually 24-bit colours, and they can't even see that much. The human eye can tell the difference between shades about every 8 values (so you could see the difference between (0,0,0) and (8,8, supposedly).

 
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Rycon



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10th March, 2004 at 23:00:19 -

I can think of reasons to doubt that information, how do they REALLY get that exact number, everybody is a bit different.

 
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11th March, 2004 at 23:58:23 -

i just got mmf
why do people keep complaing on the interface. i dont think it's retarded at all
the only annoying thing is the animation editor

 
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Muz



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12th March, 2004 at 00:10:47 -

I just despise the animation editor. It's extremely bulky and forces you to click a lot more than you really should. And it's hellishly annoying It's like the beta testers never even touched it. Besides that, MMF is the best instant programming program out there.

24-bit, IMHO, is not enough. I need higher colors to fully import the stuff I've done in Photoshop. Sure, I could lower the colors in Photoshop, but the gradient lighting thing looks horrible.

 
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Kramy



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12th March, 2004 at 00:22:56 -

The human eye supposedly can distinguish between 15bit colours, which is the reason 15bit(32768 colours) is called the true colour point.

Personally, I don't think I can distinguish quite that many. I find that 3 reds in the MMF pallette look identical, yet their RGB's are off by about 20. Maybe I'm slightly colour blind.

Also, putting colours beside eachother blends them, so a gradient is harder to distinguish between colours than 2 reds placed beside some control colours. Likewise putting the colours beside other control colours blends those, so we won't see the original colour, but we will still distinguish a difference.


 
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Kris

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12th March, 2004 at 15:36:39 -

nah, colour blindness is usually where you can't tell between red/green and yellow/blue

 
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12th March, 2004 at 15:39:41 -

I need 16 million and one! colours. The last one is a special one that crashes the computer screen

 
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