I can't believe I actually chose to read such a long page. Now because you have poured forth a torrent of evil letters unto our page, your soul shall be summoned by the dark force and desecrated into obscurity
Zaku, you're really reaching, and like I said, you can't pick and choose. For two of your points you say "well, is/are X still around today," and then on the topic of Damascus, you're trying to use the fact that it still exists as evidence that it was destroyed (...). All the page says is that the remnants of the original city are buried in a certain place. Well, the remnants of old New York are buried under contemporary New York, but that doesn't mean NYC was ever destroyed. Besides, the site says the city is 7,000 years old. I'd rather trust Damascans on the subject.
As for the origin of god, or the origin of the big bang, it's not really such a big issue. We, in normal everyday life, associate events with causes. There are some things, like radioactive decay, that doesn't seem to have any apparent cause. So perhaps it doesn't apply everywhere.
Additionally, causality requires time to function. Something happens after something else. Time would not have existed previous to the big bang, so the big bang cannot have a cause, at least in the way we know it. There are theories such as an oscillating universal system, or an additional unbound dimension of time, that handle the idea of 'where did it come from' pretty nicely.
Here's the thing; only god could be powerful enough to create god, but that's circular. If god doesn't need a cause in order to exist, then why should the big bang? If god was created spontaneously, then he is uneccesary for events that are apparently equally spontaneous.
Get a real life? Your the one being played like a puppet by the devil. Your not even controlling your life he is and you cant even see that. What would a man achieve if he uptained everything of the world and falled short from the glory of God. God created us atleast we could do for him is thank him by listening to what he says. Wouldnt you want to punish your child if they disobeyed you? Common sense. Plus wouldnt he want someone to punish if his child died for you and you still hated him. Dont call the lord names strictly because you dont know his reasons. He has a plan and a reason for everything. Respect my beliefs and stop attacking them for me to defend. I wont attack yours if you dont judge mine. Though I believe, I believe in the truth and the light. Making fun of it and questioning it doesnt make you a good person no matter what you believe in.
Normally I wouldn't post anything in this situation, but I think another point of view might help you change your mind about Christianity. I was raised as a Catholic then in my early teens I turned agonistic. I was completely unsure of religon. Then I started listening to music, and I picked up a Marilyn Manson album. I loved his music and I thought his message was intelligent and clever. I read his auto-biography and I found out he was a minister in the Church of Satan. I found it very interesting and I began to experiment a little, I went to Church meetings and started hanging out in the graveyard. Most people laugh at us, but there comes a real sense of unity from finding people like yourself. We came to realise the Bible was wrong, and Satan is actually the good guy in this battle. Do you think he left God's domain for no reason? He saw past his lies and started his own afterlife where people could be happy. People think satanism is horrible, but they are wrong. Most satanists are really good people, and sacrifices are very rare and when they are done it is only a small animal like a kitten or a rabbit. If you can challenge yourself to think outside the box for a minute have a look here. http://www.churchofsatan.com/
Satan is the King of LIES. For you to think he's thinking of instead of himself your wrong. He only wants to over thrown God. No matter how many souls he has to bring down with him when he loses. If you wish to go to hell and find out that Satan tricked you I can only say that he will. Your the one who has to realise your being fooled. God has already decided the match. Its amazing how fools will join the losing team. When everyone knows Satan will lose. No matter how happy you think hell is and twisted your thoughts have gone to. God will win. Like Gilgamesh said Hell is worst place you wanna go to. All your fears will come to you. For someone to say they rather go to hell than be with someone else they dont even know! but hate is rediculous. I dont hate anyone especialy if I dont know any of you personaly, but I disagree with you that Satan isnt evil. Thats just proof how he can brain wash anyones mind!
Satan didnt see past God's lies and leave. God saw past his lies and kicked him out and made his own place called hell! for others that do wrong to join him!
DUDE the first time the bible introduces Satan he's doing evil! If it wasnt for your great Good Happy Satan we all still be the Garden naked and with no worries and care free. Insted he gives us sin and death as well the chance to be punished with him in hell. Some good fellow thats the most bull Ive heard on this whole thread! infact my whole life! The Devil has done nothing for anyone but himself. Why would you want to be with someone so greedy instead of a loving God that made you. God created us! thats enough sense for me to be on his side. The Devil is Evil theres nothing good about him and there never will be. How can someone side with the person that has giving you nothing but pain. There is nothing good to recieve in hell who ever told it was happy (Satan) only wants you to suffer with him. If he's so good! thats why he wants you so bad to suffer with him. You people are stupid! I speak the truth for you to read all this and still not believe is a stupid fool! I dont care what you say about me going the wrong way about it. The truth is the truth if it makes you scared good you should be scared of Hell!
yami you say we're being played for puppets ...ever thouht about the possibility that the church is pulling your strings so well you can't even see it, just like you say we're being played for puppets. I'm not saying you are attached to strings, just that it's possible. In the middle ages the church benefitted greatly from pulling people's strings...
Other guy - My impression of satanism is that instead of being submissive to someone you'll never even talk to, it's all about yourself. It seems to me like satanism isn't evil, but just encourages people to think for themselves and therefore simply is different from christianity which, imho, may be why Christianity alianates it.
i myself don't belong to any religion, i just mind my own business and don't see the point of belonging to a religion.<
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