much things you guys said are contradicting each others. like it's said(if it's true) god made adam then eve. not adam and michael jackson. but as ben said, it's their own life.
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I don't see the point in gay marriage, really. Marriage is all about tying a man and a woman together so that they'll be forced to take care of their child together. Less divorces, more kids with parents, happyness.
Gays can't make babies together, so why should they get married? So someone could make money when they divorce?
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Gays can adopt (i think) and that's a good thing. Although I'm against gay marriage, i don't think it's my right to tell other people what they can and can not do.
Originally Posted by -Codemonkey- I do not like gay marrage. It's unnatural, disgusting, and no nation before the last couple hundred years has ever allowed gay marrage, or homosexuality in general.
Dude, no offence but check your facts. Almost every society in the history of Earth has had a gay streak. Take the Greeks: every single Greek soldier had a wife, and a gay buddy for when he was at war. EVERY SINGLE ONE. I disagree with homosexuality but I think that Gays should be able to be joined, but not through marriage. If churches HAVE to marry gay couples it would be like forcing Muslims to eat bacon and drink alcohol. Its overriding the beliefs of the church which is just as big a taboo as saying Gays can't marry.
So if Gays get "married" through a courthouse or judge I am OK with it, but we shouldn't force churches to give up their rights for others.
Originally Posted by -Adam- I became less religious when I went to High School. My Primary school was religious- Assembly was called Worship and the headmaster used to sing the Neighbours soap Theme tune and replace "neighbours" with "Jesus"
Jesus, Everybody needs good Jesus
With a little understanding
You can find the perfect blend
Jesus...should be there for one another
That's when good Jesus become good friends
Ooh Jesus, should be there for one another
That's when good Jesus become good friends.
That doesn't even make sense...
Religion in schools has a very small "OK" area. I think teaching ABOUT religion is good, but not teaching religion. If you take out teaching about religion all together you get the sort of people who irrationally hate Muslims and try to turn the Middle East into a large crater. People should be taught what the most common religions are about and what they believe without bias so the students can make an informed decision.
A friend of mine went to a Mosque as part of a Christian discipleship group where they just talked to the Islamic-Pastor-equivalent about what they believed. He wasn't suddenly brainwashed into becoming Muslim or anything, but it made his choice to be Christian valid, because he wasn't just doing it because someone told him to.
Originally Posted by MitchHM I'm really quite surprised about the amount of people against gay marrigge! Especially if it's for religious reasons. I mean, come on. If god doesn't like gay people he shouldn't make them.
God didn't make people gay, He gave them free choice. And (from a general religious perspective) they chose wrong.
Originally Posted by -Adam- I became less religious when I went to High School. My Primary school was religious- Assembly was called Worship and the headmaster used to sing the Neighbours soap Theme tune and replace "neighbours" with "Jesus"
Jesus, Everybody needs good Jesus
With a little understanding
You can find the perfect blend
Jesus...should be there for one another
That's when good Jesus become good friends
Ooh Jesus, should be there for one another
That's when good Jesus become good friends.
That doesn't even make sense...
Religion in schools has a very small "OK" area. I think teaching ABOUT religion is good, but not teaching religion. If you take out teaching about religion all together you get the sort of people who irrationally hate Muslims and try to turn the Middle East into a large crater. People should be taught what the most common religions are about and what they believe without bias so the students can make an informed decision.
A friend of mine went to a Mosque as part of a Christian discipleship group where they just talked to the Islamic-Pastor-equivalent about what they believed. He wasn't suddenly brainwashed into becoming Muslim or anything, but it made his choice to be Christian valid, because he wasn't just doing it because someone told him to.
Originally Posted by MitchHM I'm really quite surprised about the amount of people against gay marrigge! Especially if it's for religious reasons. I mean, come on. If god doesn't like gay people he shouldn't make them.
God didn't make people gay, He gave them free choice. And (from a general religious perspective) they chose wrong.
so just cause society shows a history means its not unnatural?
history also repeats itself so would you be for the next hitler?
Lets get something straight. Prop 8 is all about how the government joins two individuals. I agree that churches shouldn't have to marry gays if they don't want to. But we don't vote on what churches should do. The government is not a church, and should be completely separate from one. And hence you cannot place your religious differences in the way of gay people getting married. Let the government recognize it on an equal level to straight marriage, but let the churches think whatever they want to think.
Churches should seriously not be tax-exempt if they're going to campaign politically for propositions like this.
Originally Posted by -Adam- "he used to be COMPLETELY different. he even had a girlfriend. gays arent born they choose to be so."
Have you ever thought he could have been living a lie?
so he was living a lie and he didnt know he was? hes admitted it was a lifestyle change. its a preference. a bad one if you ask me. i already stated the health risk factor. not to mention its just...well...gay.
Cecil, I'm quite shocked at this statement you made. I've always known you to be pretty fair and balanced. The health risks in gay sex are exactly the same as in normal sex. If you don't wrap it, you can catch something. Guy, girl, gay, straight. STD's don't care what your sexual preference is.