Ok, half the info in this thread is wrong. Let me clarify.
Psp will only be out in Japan by the end of the year. It has also dropped a couple features such as the built in Wi-Fi, and the Mp3 player. These will both be avaliable at realease time as an add on card. Sony did this to drop the Psp price to a competitive level. $150 is the launch price for the Psp.
NDS will be out this year, play gameboy advance games, and have a 150 price tag also. This, at launch means that NDS is going to be the stronger system. There are a sick amount of developers signed up for it with about 20 games to be released for the DS within the first month of release.
NOTE: The Psp is NOT as powerful as a PS2. It's slightly more powerful than the ps1, sony has just figured out some texture wrapping technology to take away "jaggies" which is why the screens also look more like PS2.
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Psp won't have a huge launch title list, it's looking like it's going to be in the 6 to 7 title range.
The short term winner is going to be Nintendo, their system can do more at launch and is coming out sooner than the competition. The long term winner we'll need to wait and see.
I think slightly more powerful than a PSX is a bit of an understatement. Take a look at the in-game videos and try to tell me it can't hold it's own against at least the Dreamcast. As for the prices... $150 sounds reasonable (hell, I was guessin' $200 for the PSP).
As for the battery life... anyone heard of rechargeable batteries? Besides, why would you need more than 8 hours of battery life? It's not like you'd ever play the system for 8-hours straight without recharging anyway.
a maximum of 8 hours battery is good? lol people critically flamed the iPod for that, people praised the SP for its 14 hour play. it dosnt seem bad now but it will be in real life
Yeah, PSP may be more powerful, but it probably won't have any good games for it. It would just have dumb stuff like military sims and all that other crap. I'm just into pure action. Sony doesn't understand that.
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Yes, slightly more powerful than a playstation.
The small resolution means that the gfx processor doesn't need to make huge polygons, which frees up several cycles for it to run through. Combine that with the new "wrapper" tech, and you have PS2 esque graphics. No I don't think the Psp could run dreamcast games without major slowdown, but as the home and portable consoles are fundamentally different, this isn't a fair comparison. The memory bandwidth on the Psp is small, I believe it's like 16 megs a second, now this is for ALL memory usages(sound, Graphics, AI, etc.) Obviously there are some limitations, but that's true of any portable.
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My thoughts were exactly the same as Jay White's. I was orignially looking forward to the PSP, because of the lack of information about the DS. But now that all is revealed the PSP looks sort of sucky compared to the DS.
Something to note: 9 out of 9 previous competitors in the handheld market have fallen to Nintendo's dominance in the area (figure taken from sources available to me because I work at a game store). Sony's the 10th now, and I personally think the DS will come out on top. I don't think the PSP will neccessarily crumble to nothing and be a complete waste of time, but it could happen and my bet is that the DS will be vastly more popular.
Dustin, maybe you should take care of your stuff so it doesn't get trashed. CD's come in jewel cases for a reason ... maybe you should use them.
I'd like to see both systems do well (No fanboy here... I own 3 Sega systems, an Xbox, a PS2, and 3 Nintendo systems), but right now -- with the information I have so far (specs, videos, what we know of the software line up and system design), I'm going to put my money on the PSP. While history does hold that, as Rick put it, 9 out of 9 competitors to the Gameboy have failed, history also shows that Sony has completely dessimated the N64 and GameCube in terms of sales. I really think the market is ready to support 2 systems tho (after all, it's fully supporting 3 consoles for the first time ever). Competition spurs superior game design and dictates lower prices. As I've said, the two systems co-exist without destroying the other. DS is clearly aimed at kids, while the PSP is clearly aimed at the high school and college crowd. The game design reflects this, the hardware design reflects, and likely the prices will reflect this.
Oh, and Chicken... I appreciate your efforts toward keeping this debate intellectual, but you did goof up a couple of things. Porting refers to recoding a game to make it work on another platform (what is different is the ease of porting -- which I'm sure is what you meant to say, probably just worded it the wrong way), and the Sonic E3 demo was shown on DS, not PSP.
Kinda depends on what you do with it actually... I mean, it wouldn't be hard for a developer to just make the action on one screen and make a map on the bottem or use it for stats and such without really doing much to change the code. You've got a point tho when it comes to software that will truly take advantage of the duel-screens.
It is a known fact that a disc will last no-where as near as long as a cartridge.
Discs can get scratched easy, you have to handle them in a certain way, while a cartridge you can grab onto any way you like!
Also another downfall of sony's, yes they may have some of your favourite games from Playstation BUT you will have to Re-buy them if you want to play them on your PSP because the PSP uses "UMD" discs.
while with the DS you can play your already owned GBA games.
PSP's Specs are alot better then DS, but the innovation of the DS will surely conquer over it: Voice Recognition, Dual screens, touch screen e.t.c
and lets not forget the DS ISNT the new Game Boy, the next Game Boy is in the making so the 2D-Handheld market is still in Nintendos favour.
with the DS you can play both 2D and 3D, PSP will most likely be all 3D games.
PSP will most likely have a library of ports and shitty games.
And last but not least, we all know that Nintendo have some of the best game designers in the entire world, and lets not forget that Nintendo has been in the Handheld business alot longer then sony!
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What's wrong with not state-of-the-art technology?
