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28th September, 2008 at 17:57:02 -


Originally Posted by BrandonC

Originally Posted by -Codemonkey-
No! Why do some people continue to encourage this idiot to keep making fake accounts and spamming the forums with little sissy insults? It's not funny, and its not cool.



This isn't just another random fake account. It's Phizzy. He has a 50 50 ratio on this site of people who love or hate him, and he dances the fine line. He generally has constructive thoughts, but not a single clue of common sense when it comes to expressing them. That's why it's such a gray area as to whether or not he should have been banned, and was unbanned on so many occasions prior.

lol! There's no "gray area" about phizzy being banned, just the fact that he made another account today proves that. And I'm sure that less then 50% of the active members want phizzy back, much less then 50%.

 
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28th September, 2008 at 18:15:01 -

Look over the rules, it's no grey area at all.

 
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28th September, 2008 at 18:26:51 -


Originally Posted by -Codemonkey-

Originally Posted by BrandonC

Originally Posted by -Codemonkey-
No! Why do some people continue to encourage this idiot to keep making fake accounts and spamming the forums with little sissy insults? It's not funny, and its not cool.



This isn't just another random fake account. It's Phizzy. He has a 50 50 ratio on this site of people who love or hate him, and he dances the fine line. He generally has constructive thoughts, but not a single clue of common sense when it comes to expressing them. That's why it's such a gray area as to whether or not he should have been banned, and was unbanned on so many occasions prior.

lol! There's no "gray area" about phizzy being banned, just the fact that he made another account today proves that. And I'm sure that less then 50% of the active members want phizzy back, much less then 50%.



TBH, I think the majority of TDC doesn't care either way.

 
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28th September, 2008 at 18:32:45 -


Originally Posted by BrandonC
This isn't just another random fake account. It's Phizzy.



lol.

 
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28th September, 2008 at 19:17:34 -

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"Instead, we would have to revert to the review system, but that didn't work so well because people just couldn't be bothered to write reviews."

Okay, when I talk about using the review system I am not saying to go write a big long review. One of the flaws with the five star rating is that there is no standard of which the person is basing their score off of. If you go to the reviews on the site you will see that the star rating system has sections for you to rate that will help explain how you came up your score. The review uses 10 stars and I think that will also help the problem with several games having the same exact score.

So using that same star rating system means having 10 stars instead of 5, 5 sections of which your rating is based off of, and overall a more detailed explanation about one's rating without them having to explain what they thought was low because the rating actually says it.

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28th September, 2008 at 19:45:06 -

You know, lets just get rid of ratings all together. Everyone seems to love arguing about them, and much nastiness is spread because people don't agree with what others have rated their games. It's to the point where this arguing is hurting the community and I'm quite tired of seeing these stupid little spats because "XXXX rated my game at 0 star!"

If we get rid of the 0 stars, then the whole thing is going to happen again because people will start rating at 1 star.

Obviously the only solution is to not allow ratings at all.

This is why we can't have nice things.

 
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28th September, 2008 at 20:08:57 -

There is nothing wrong with having a debate. I do not see how talking about wanting to make the rating system, which in fact is an action of trying to make the community better, would actually hurt it. If anything most of us can agree to disagree on the situation. I myself think that the ratings are to simple and vague. There needs to be a standard system to go by so everyone's votes are NOT AS BIASED as before. Of course there is no way that is perfect, but then again neither are people.

I think the ratings should stay, because it gives others motivation to make a better product; however, when the system can be improved why would you see those who want it to be as a bad thing?

 
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28th September, 2008 at 20:22:06 -


Originally Posted by Yami
There is nothing wrong with having a debate. I do not see how talking about wanting to make the rating system, which in fact is an action of trying to make the community better, would actually hurt it. If anything most of us can agree to disagree on the situation. I myself think that the ratings are to simple and vague. There needs to be a standard system to go by so everyone's votes are NOT AS BIASED as before. Of course there is no way that is perfect, but then again neither are people.

I think the ratings should stay, because it gives others motivation to make a better product; however, when the system can be improved why would you see those who want it to be as a bad thing?



I have no problem with debate. Some people in this thread have been indeed been debating. The others are just bashing and throwing fits. You mention biased ratings. Um, ratings aren't biased. People who make the ratings are. You can't get rid of the bias without getting rid of the people.

 
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28th September, 2008 at 20:43:54 -

Yeah, people who give the ratings are biased so that is why there should be a standard for them to go by to help that problem.

 
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28th September, 2008 at 20:50:24 -


Originally Posted by Yami
Yeah, people who give the ratings are biased so that is why there should be a standard for them to go by to help that problem.



Standards isn't going to help that problem at all. Those biased individuals will just give the same biased ratings ignoring "standards". O for GFX, 0 for Gameplay, 0 for Story, etc. etc.

 
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28th September, 2008 at 20:55:08 -

I would not stop anyone from doing that, but it would be a better system.

 
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28th September, 2008 at 20:57:13 -

So... who wants cake?

 
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28th September, 2008 at 21:00:23 -


Originally Posted by Yami
I would not stop anyone from doing that, but it would be a better system.



How? It just essentially fluffs the already biased ratings. Instead of one 0 star rating, there would be like 4 for people to fight over.

 
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28th September, 2008 at 21:04:12 -

Youtube has a very nice system very much like ours (except without 0 stars, heh heh) it lets people / ratings, which wouldnt effect them, but would show how many people thought it was a unfair rating ( like giving streetwise 0 stars ).

 
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28th September, 2008 at 21:08:06 -

It's better because you do not have to explain how you came up with your score. The rating says it all.

 
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