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Yami



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2nd October, 2008 at 03:53:18 -

The favorite system sounds like the simplest way to go. I mean look at the top favored projects and they seem about right. This just means the top downloads would be the most popular games. Plus holding a popular rating means it's less likely to have someone disagreeing with whether or not it belongs where it is on the list.

 
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2nd October, 2008 at 17:58:03 -


Originally Posted by Muz
The one major flaw with a favorites system is that it'll collect more favorited votes after a long time, compared to better games which are newer. So if you have a fairly decent game submitted 3 years ago, nothing new can beat it. And of course, guys with their own cliques will get a lot more votes than they deserve.



I don't really see this as a genuine problem. You could just compare favourites to downloads ratio. Or even favourites over time if you want that sort of system, which would get a little complicated- it would obviously not be linear, since favourites per day will be much higher for newer games than for older games. Favourites to downloads is the simpler option, favourites over time would be harder to implement and potentially overcomplicated. But both of these approaches help to alleviate the problem you identified.

Also in response to the "cliques" problem, that is impossible to fix with a voting system, since friends will always look favourably upon each other's efforts no matter which system you use. You could always have an "Admins choice" award or something if you want some sort of so-called objectivity in the favourites system, where if more than 80% or so of the admins favourite a particular game, it gets a green star next to its name or something. This would be a little bit like the users' and critics' views on movies etc.

Indeed, if you wanted to complicate it a bit further, you could have admins (or even other users!) vote on and promote users to positions of "Top Reviewers" or something, based on rarely if ever giving unfounded or unfair votes. Not that I want to get into a debate on what types of votes are unfair, that would be left up to whoever is in charge of assessing whether a user is "fair" and "valued" based on the ratings, comments and reviews they leave. I'd imagine with the approval of both a certain number of users, admins and potentially existing "Top reviewers", new "Top reviewers" could be delegated.

Did I mention this is overcomplicated? Of course they're just ideas Feel free to critique / disagree

 
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2nd October, 2008 at 19:36:26 -

Ok, how about having two lists. One "all time most favourites" and one "this months favourites" or "this weeks favourites" (just like we have a top 10 weekly downloads list)

 
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2nd October, 2008 at 19:46:18 -

going back and just favoriting a game from the past is gonna be a 10 second process.

 
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Yami



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3rd October, 2008 at 00:05:49 -

I agree with Shab, going back to favorite an old game that you like would be easy. I know a website that has favorites within their system. www.pixeljoint.com Similar to what Phredreeke suggested, they sort the pictures by most favorites, weekly showcase, and newest pixel art. So we could have the default as the newest games. Then have the options to few the other assortments. Instead of weekly showcase we could have a monthly one and then of course the most favorites as well.

 
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3rd October, 2008 at 00:46:01 -

I think it would be best to encourage people to go back and favourite older games so you don't only end up with new games in the top lists.

 
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Yami



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3rd October, 2008 at 01:13:17 -

The "Bring ‘em Back" on the front page would be a good way to do that.

 
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3rd October, 2008 at 01:20:14 -

speaking of bring em back. wasnt one of the conditions of the front page news admin that you had to at least update the front page once every two days? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

 
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3rd October, 2008 at 02:29:42 -

Well it seems the Favourite system is the way to go then.

 
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3rd October, 2008 at 02:59:22 -

That it does!

 
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3rd October, 2008 at 03:41:41 -

I guess it would be everyone's 'favourite' system. Or at least just the people who have read this forum thread. Maybe a poll is in order? Though I somehow question the polls.. it would be cool if the options appeared in a random order for each user, to avoid "donkey votes" where the first option is selected from laziness.

 
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3rd October, 2008 at 03:50:46 -

Well according to the poll it is obvious that the majority of the users don't want to use the current system.

 
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3rd October, 2008 at 04:13:00 -

Lets go favourite!

EDIT; Quickly! Lock this topic now while people are still agreeing!

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3rd October, 2008 at 06:44:26 -

> DISAGREE! <

Heh. But yeah I think the problem is basically solved, right?

 
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4th October, 2008 at 20:36:57 -

Wow i've been away for just over a week and look what i've missed! Apart from the squabbling, this was one hell of a debate! I was all in favour for changing the rating system but to be honest, i've changed my mind and i wanna leave it as it is.

The only option i would like is the option to change my score maybe just once. Sometimes i play a game for a while and decide that i like it more/less than when i actually rated it. That's not to say that i rate games after just 5 minutes play, it's just that some games grow on me over time and i think they deserve higher scores, while other games really become ugly after prolonged play exposes all of the nasty bugs and poor gameplay traits that i'd missed originally.

 
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