So with all the exciting stuff going on in the background, i am wondering what should the daily click do to get more visitors! In my opinion this is a good site, good download section everyhing is updated but still back in 2003 we had more visitors then we do now! Is that not kinda crazy?
What can we the admin team or myself do to make this site more accesible to new folks, I was thinking even a name change can help (and cause of skins you can always select a tdc-name skin if you like)
But seriously, what do you think is holding this site back from breaking out into the more visitors mold. And can something be done about it?
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I think it's really about the size of the Click Community. The community's much, much smaller now than back in 2003. I mean look at it, TDC is the only site half a year old. There's plenty of people who know about TDC (50 guests now) but not many are actually making games.
So.. I think the best way would be to just expand the community a bit. Make it more active. Get more people to make games. Ask your friends, kids, girlfriend, girlfriend's kids.
But if we want to take a step - I think it's to bring up a proper chatroom again. Something that the whole community could join in. Not just the Gwerdy or the TDC chat, a neutral one, like #k&p before this. Get a few representatives from around the community to be ops at it, maybe Jeff, Rikus, Clubsoft, Adam, Peblo, Pixelthief, etc.
Disclaimer: Any sarcasm in my posts will not be mentioned as that would ruin the purpose. It is assumed that the reader is intelligent enough to tell the difference between what is sarcasm and what is not.
But if we want to take a step - I think it's to bring up a proper chatroom again. Something that the whole community could join in. Not just the Gwerdy or the TDC chat, a neutral one, like #k&p before this. Get a few representatives from around the community to be ops at it, maybe Jeff, Rikus, Clubsoft, Adam, Peblo, Pixelthief, etc.
Ok I may be opening a can of worms, but given the level of maturity Adam has displayed he should not be put in charge of anything to do with a successful community (because it really is, it's only limited by the Click connection. If a few members of the community were more allowing of games made by other products (and the product themselves) then it would really open the gates).
Ok, let's not touch on that. Last thing we need is an argument either way it goes
Anyhow, just examples. Everyone could decide on the list later. But I'd rather that a klik chan not be too politically motivated, to or against any other sites. It should be a gathering place for all klikers, just to get everyone active again.
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Disclaimer: Any sarcasm in my posts will not be mentioned as that would ruin the purpose. It is assumed that the reader is intelligent enough to tell the difference between what is sarcasm and what is not.
There are plenty of people already in the community that avoid TDC due to it's 'childish' reputation or because it's a breeding ground for n00bness. (by welcoming all games no matter how bad)
So we could find a way to change people's minds about what the site is all about, veterans and newbies joining together and making games for fun!
But if we want to take a step - I think it's to bring up a proper chatroom again. Something that the whole community could join in. Not just the Gwerdy or the TDC chat, a neutral one, like #k&p before this. Get a few representatives from around the community to be ops at it, maybe Jeff, Rikus, Clubsoft, Adam, Peblo, Pixelthief, etc.
Ok I may be opening a can of worms, but given the level of maturity Adam has displayed he should not be put in charge of anything to do with a successful community (because it really is, it's only limited by the Click connection. If a few members of the community were more allowing of games made by other products (and the product themselves) then it would really open the gates).
Maturity!? Mr "I hate Derek Yu because he copies my art work" I mean, as if Derek yu would ever copy your art, James. You have so many issues I could let slip, at least I let people know the real me.
Everyone has their good and bad stuff. Let's not worry about that.
I do agree that we should do something. I'm thinking about buying a TDC shirt, and I put up a link to this site on my own. (Not that I get many visitors) We should just tell people. Generally I tend to be a bit selfish with my precious nugget of knowledge that be knowing of TGF's existence, but if we tell everyone about clickteam's software, we'll naturally attract more members. Spread the word!
As it is, we have a fairly large community. There are a ton of people on the actives list that just never post in the forums. Doing things like official competitions and fun things like video game tournaments like we've mentioned before (maybe a professional multiplayer game, or one designed by TDC's members) also get people interested.
But if we want to take a step - I think it's to bring up a proper chatroom again. Something that the whole community could join in. Not just the Gwerdy or the TDC chat, a neutral one, like #k&p before this. Get a few representatives from around the community to be ops at it, maybe Jeff, Rikus, Clubsoft, Adam, Peblo, Pixelthief, etc.
Ok I may be opening a can of worms, but given the level of maturity Adam has displayed he should not be put in charge of anything to do with a successful community (because it really is, it's only limited by the Click connection. If a few members of the community were more allowing of games made by other products (and the product themselves) then it would really open the gates).
Maturity!? Mr "I hate Derek Yu because he copies my art work" I mean, as if Derek yu would ever copy your art, James. You have so many issues I could let slip, at least I let people know the real me.
yes yes yes.... ignoring this feud for a moment.
it maybe interesting to note that i kept away from this site for a very long time until realising that the members arent likely to bite my head off. i mean... i first cropped up on the internet click community back in 2001! so i'm a good example of the problem i suppose!
And there we go again . It wasn't me who brought up that Derek Yu thing either, someone linked me to it on my forum. Again you know this it's just you doing this whole strange thing you do. I mean what does Derek even have to do with this topic? It beggars belief.
So yea. Who exactly is against letting in members and games from the Construct community? We could do with more varied people, IMO.
Originally Posted by Muz I think it's really about the size of the Click Community. The community's much, much smaller now than back in 2003. I mean look at it, TDC is the only site half a year old. There's plenty of people who know about TDC (50 guests now) but not many are actually making games.
So.. I think the best way would be to just expand the community a bit. Make it more active. Get more people to make games. Ask your friends, kids, girlfriend, girlfriend's kids.
But if we want to take a step - I think it's to bring up a proper chatroom again. Something that the whole community could join in. Not just the Gwerdy or the TDC chat, a neutral one, like #k&p before this. Get a few representatives from around the community to be ops at it, maybe Jeff, Rikus, Clubsoft, Adam, Peblo, Pixelthief, etc.
Firstly I think people are making games, they just dont release them or abandon them. Secondly I dont think a chat would do much at all, Clickteam chat gets a couple of new people on a weekly basis, but it's not a chat room that attracts' people to the site. I think people should be encouraged to get more feedback on their games (without having to start a project), if people get good feedback on a game it's a really encouraging feeling not to give up on the game. Perhaps Rikus could start a "What have you worked on this week?" thread section to see how productive everyone really is
I actually like OldManClayton's idea of advertising. Perhaps if the site had a shop of accessories for members to buy. I for one would not mind walking around in a TDC shirt or something endorsing a Clickteam product.
Just my thoughts but maybe stop allowing the joke or "mocking" games that crop up so often on this site - they make TDC itself a joke, along with the software used to create the games.
The latest is "Pang the beginning", last week was "greg the potato" both made badly on purpose (quite clearly).
TDC has been plagued with this crap since i've known - way back to Ketchup Kamel et al.
The reason I think these types of games should not be allowed on is because i'm sure there are lots of people (like myself) who would want to get more involved, writing reviews or uploading their creations (i've made ALOT of games over the years but never submit them on here - because I put effort into my work and don't want it associated with people who create games badly just to mock Fusion or to "Make a point" of some kind.)
Yes it's funny at first (when someone tries their hardest to make the shittiest thing ever; complete with pointless installer) but it lowers the integrity of the site and in my opinion would repulse new people from taking part.
Second thing is - the review-score system is kinda flawed. I see a few times people review a game and point out all the problems of the game, giving it 7/10 or so for each category then giving an OVERALL rating of absolute perfection: 10/10. Which, again destroys integrity and the point of having review scores. A game should not get 10/10 unless it IS perfect.
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You have so many issues I could let slip, at least I let people know the real me.
Let's not worry about that.
I'd definitely wear one to the click convention.